FastRedPonyCar
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ok I'm in the market for a nice les paul and for the last oh... 12 years, I've played various gibsons of all price tags on countless store walls and only a couple of them I actually liked but unfortuately, they happened to be the highest end ones :roll:
common sense tells me that there is definately a point of diminishing returns when it comes to buying anything and $3000 for a guitar is beyond that limit for me.
so after doing more research over the last 9 or 10 months, I've turned my attention to the Japanese les pauls. Edwards, burney, tokai, etc I've read nothing but excellent reviews.
the reason I'm here is becuase of those reviews, it seems like everyone likes the tokai's the best. Seems that even their entry level love rocks rival the $2000+ Gibsons.
anyways, as I've been researching these things and browsing this forum, I see there are fakes (apparently good ones).
I'm here hoping that you guys can help me out with a couple of questions.
Right now, all I'm going off of is the descriptions of the EBAY auctions for the Tokais and the prices they're asking for the new ones (not including shipping)
- What are the main construction differences between the LS90 and LS100?
- Is the only difference between the LS100 and LS160 the long tenon neck construction?
Basically I've got a couple of ways I'm viewing this purchasing decision and the primary one is what construction or build feature puts that extra $600 premium on the LS160 over the ls90?
Second, assuming that if there are hardware or wiring/pot/capacitor differences between the LS90 and the higher end models, if I upgrade those (IF it's needed) is there any difference then between the lower end Loverocks or not with aspect to the hardware?
Basically, I'm wanting to know that if I get an LS90 (or LS100) what will I miss out on vs the much more expensive LS160 and more expensive models?
ALSO, to avoid buying a fake Tokai, who is a reputable dealer outside of the ebay realm if needed that I can buy from?
I'm particularly interested in the LS95F. It seems to be priced at a price I can afford, looks great on the tokai.de site and I've read a lot of great things about it. I'm just worried that for that extra $600 for the LS135 or 160, I can get a much better guitar. I've never heard of a flamed sycamore + maple top... just maple. should this affect my decision or is it ok?
If this should be avoided, I'm digging the black LS85 as well but it still has a maple top under the paint... are there any ALL mahogany models?
Sorry for the long post but it seems that there is a lot to learn about these things and I want my money to buy the best possible with the budget of roughly $1200~ish to work with and if there are simply must have features on the more expensive models that offer a real tangible benefit to me.
thanks for any help guys
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JAGUAR XJR-12
common sense tells me that there is definately a point of diminishing returns when it comes to buying anything and $3000 for a guitar is beyond that limit for me.
so after doing more research over the last 9 or 10 months, I've turned my attention to the Japanese les pauls. Edwards, burney, tokai, etc I've read nothing but excellent reviews.
the reason I'm here is becuase of those reviews, it seems like everyone likes the tokai's the best. Seems that even their entry level love rocks rival the $2000+ Gibsons.
anyways, as I've been researching these things and browsing this forum, I see there are fakes (apparently good ones).
I'm here hoping that you guys can help me out with a couple of questions.
Right now, all I'm going off of is the descriptions of the EBAY auctions for the Tokais and the prices they're asking for the new ones (not including shipping)
- What are the main construction differences between the LS90 and LS100?
- Is the only difference between the LS100 and LS160 the long tenon neck construction?
Basically I've got a couple of ways I'm viewing this purchasing decision and the primary one is what construction or build feature puts that extra $600 premium on the LS160 over the ls90?
Second, assuming that if there are hardware or wiring/pot/capacitor differences between the LS90 and the higher end models, if I upgrade those (IF it's needed) is there any difference then between the lower end Loverocks or not with aspect to the hardware?
Basically, I'm wanting to know that if I get an LS90 (or LS100) what will I miss out on vs the much more expensive LS160 and more expensive models?
ALSO, to avoid buying a fake Tokai, who is a reputable dealer outside of the ebay realm if needed that I can buy from?
I'm particularly interested in the LS95F. It seems to be priced at a price I can afford, looks great on the tokai.de site and I've read a lot of great things about it. I'm just worried that for that extra $600 for the LS135 or 160, I can get a much better guitar. I've never heard of a flamed sycamore + maple top... just maple. should this affect my decision or is it ok?
If this should be avoided, I'm digging the black LS85 as well but it still has a maple top under the paint... are there any ALL mahogany models?
Sorry for the long post but it seems that there is a lot to learn about these things and I want my money to buy the best possible with the budget of roughly $1200~ish to work with and if there are simply must have features on the more expensive models that offer a real tangible benefit to me.
thanks for any help guys
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JAGUAR XJR-12
