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I've searched around for rates, diagrams and such on the net but as I'm not really into financial terms and such I couldn't really figure it out!

I thought you people here might know...Please help me?

Thanks!
 
Rough estimated; The JYEN lost at least 40 - 50 % of its value until nowadays.
( Against Euro, former Deutsch Mark)
 
Depends on who's "dollars" you are converting to and the rate of inflation for each. Japan's yen has been all over the place as has the US Dollar......back then there was no Euro.

I found on Google that by the end of the 1980's, the Yen was in the 120's against the US Dollar. Question is, what was a US Dollar worth back then? Hell of a lot more back then than it is currently (almost $2 USD to 1 Pound Sterling).
 
It really doesn't matter what the yen was worth 20 years ago.

What really matters is what the current administration in America (the Bush dictatorship) has done to destroy the value of the US dollar with their policies in 6 years. Bush and his SS Officers have destroyed the value of the US dollar.

I give America 10 years or less before total economic implosion, and Bush can take the credit for the coming perfect economic storm.

The war in Iraq was all about the currency of exchange for Iraqi crude transactions; Saddam's anouncement that Iraq was planning to NO longer accept the US dollar but were going to change over to the Euro. Bush's war in Iraq started as a currnecy war. Bush, what a horses a%$...........
 
You're preaching to the choir.......let's keep politics somewhere other than this forum IMHO......besides it was the voting public that put him in office TWICE
 
marcusnieman said:
You're preaching to the choir.......let's keep politics somewhere other than this forum IMHO......besides it was the voting public that put him in office TWICE

Yeah, and that's a very scary thought having the voting public put Bush into office not once but twice. I always said that Americans aren't very smart or concerned and by God they proved it with Bush.

I just love the way Bush linked Iraq and 9/11, lol, and The US Congress and everyone bought into thatt crap. What a load of BS. I also love the way we're blowing $2 BILLION a week in Iraq for a war that has as many reason given for fighting it, it WASN'T for the oil but now it IS about the oil, and the US Gulf coast still languishes in ruin from a natural disaster. If that would have been a terrorists attack instead of a hurricane I suppose we would have attacked Fiji and the Marshall Islands by now...............

OK, fair is fair; the next time I go off on the Bush dictatorship I'll make sure it goes in the General Discussion section....................
 
MIJvintage said:
marcusnieman said:
You're preaching to the choir.......let's keep politics somewhere other than this forum IMHO......besides it was the voting public that put him in office TWICE

Yeah, and that's a very scary thought having the voting public put Bush into office not once but twice. I always said that Americans aren't very smart or concerned and by God they proved it with Bush.

I just love the way Bush linked Iraq and 9/11, lol, and The US Congress and everyone bought into thatt crap. What a load of BS. I also love the way we're blowing $2 BILLION a week in Iraq for a war that has as many reason given for fighting it, it WASN'T for the oil but now it IS about the oil, and the US Gulf coast still languishes in ruin from a natural disaster. If that would have been a terrorists attack instead of a hurricane I suppose we would have attacked Fiji and the Marshall Islands by now...............

OK, fair is fair; the next time I go off on the Bush dictatorship I'll make
sure it goes in the General Discussion section....................

+1 Marcus

A LOT of generalizations here. WAY too many. "Americans aren't very smart," and "they (Americans) proved it" along with "everyone bought into it."

Man, that is just not fair nor is it any where near the truth regarding many (i'm part of the "choir" of which Marcus speaks) US citizen's attitude toward the current situation, not to mention the past 6+ years.

The above generalizations are insulting to many people who DO share your same beliefs. Don't confuse the voters who elected Bush with ALL Americans. We are NOT the same!
 
eresseraca said:
I've searched around for rates, diagrams and such on the net but as I'm not really into financial terms and such I couldn't really figure it out!

I thought you people here might know...Please help me?

Thanks!
since you asked I guess it does matter to you. I know a guy who came here from Canada over 20 years ago now and he told me once when he arrived the exchange rate was something like 350 yen to a dollar...just looked and today it`s almost 122 yen/$1.oo US.
And thanks to GW, the world is a safer place...no, really...imagine how dangerous it would be without him.
 
I see there are even some Canadians that would fall for what currently passes as 'government' in the US, lol.........................good thing they don't have voting rights here....................
 
MIJvintage said:
marcusnieman said:
You're preaching to the choir.......let's keep politics somewhere other than this forum IMHO......besides it was the voting public that put him in office TWICE

Yeah, and that's a very scary thought having the voting public put Bush into office not once but twice. I always said that Americans aren't very smart or concerned and by God they proved it with Bush.

I just love the way Bush linked Iraq and 9/11, lol, and The US Congress and everyone bought into thatt crap. What a load of BS. I also love the way we're blowing $2 BILLION a week in Iraq for a war that has as many reason given for fighting it, it WASN'T for the oil but now it IS about the oil, and the US Gulf coast still languishes in ruin from a natural disaster. If that would have been a terrorists attack instead of a hurricane I suppose we would have attacked Fiji and the Marshall Islands by now...............

OK, fair is fair; the next time I go off on the Bush dictatorship I'll make sure it goes in the General Discussion section....................

Is this a moderated forum? If it is, is this acceptable? Because if it is, I'm about to flame the hell outta this self-righteous, anti-american, agenda-driven, small-minded, over-generalization of a politically-charged 'post'. Of course, if it's not, I'd rather talk about guitars...
 
MIJvintage said:
I see there are even some Canadians that would fall for what currently passes as 'government' in the US, lol.........................good thing they don't have voting rights here....................

I had hoped this was a Tokai guitar forum not a stage for some ill informed dilettante to spread his twaddle.
 
...............and I was just reading a great article by some ill informed dilettante spreading his twaddle, and what a read it is :eek:.............



Bush and the Psychology of Incompetent Decisions
By John P. Briggs, MD, and J.P. Briggs II, PhD


Thursday 18 January 2007

President George W. Bush prides himself on "making tough decisions." But
many are sensing something seriously troubling, even psychologically
unbalanced, about the president as a decision-maker. They are right.

Because of a psychological dynamic swirling around deeply hidden
feelings of inadequacy, the president has been driven to make increasingly
incompetent and risky decisions. This dynamic makes the psychological stakes
for him now unimaginably high. The words "success" and "failure" have seized
his rhetoric like metaphors for his psyche's survival.

The president's swirling dynamic lies "hidden in plain sight" in his
personal history. From the time he was a boy until his religious awakening
in his early 40s, Bush had every reason to feel he was a failure. His
continued, almost obsessive, attempts through the years to emulate his
father, obtain his approval, and escape from his influence are extensively
recorded.

His biography is peppered with remarks and behavior that allude to this
inner struggle. In an exuberant moment during his second campaign for Texas
governor, Bush told a reporter, "It's hard to believe, but ... I don't have
time to worry about being George Bush's son. Maybe it's a result of being
confident. I'm not sure how the psychoanalysts will analyze it, but I'm not
worried about it. I'm really not. I'm a free guy."

A psychoanalyst would note that he is revealing here that he has been
worrying about being his father's son quite a lot.

Resentment naturally contaminated Bush's efforts to prove himself to his
father and receive his father's approval. The contradictory mix showed up in
his compulsion to re-fight his father's war against Iraq, but this time
winning the duel some thought his father failed to win with Saddam. He could
at once emulate his father, show his contempt for him, and redeem him. But
beneath this son-father struggle lies a far more significant issue for Bush
- a question about his own competence, adequacy and autonomy as a human
being.

We have seen this inner question surface repeatedly, and we have largely
conspired with him to deny it.

* On September 11, 2001, we saw (and suppressed) the image of him
sitting stunned for seven minutes in a crowd of school children after
learning that the second plane had hit the Twin Towers, and then the lack of
image of him when he vanished from public view for the rest of the day.
Instead, we bought the cover-up image, three days after the attack, of the
strong leader, grabbing the bullhorn in New York City and issuing bellicose
statements.

* In 2004, we saw and denied the insecurity displayed when the president
refused to face the 9/11 Commission alone and needed Vice President Cheney
to go with him.

* In 2003, we saw and suppressed the dark side of the "Mission
Accomplished" aircraft carrier landing, in which a man who had ducked out on
his generation's war and dribbled away his service in the Texas Air National
Guard dressed up like Top Gun and pretended that he was a combat pilot like
his father.

* Asked by a reporter if he would accept responsibility for any
mistakes, Bush answered, "I hope I don't want to sound like I've made no
mistakes. I'm confident I have. I just haven't - you just put me under the
spot here, and maybe I'm not quick - as quick on my feet as I should be in
coming up with one." What we heard, and yet didn't hear, was a confession of
his feelings of inadequacy and an arrogant denial those feelings all at
once.

* In early 2006, when his father moved behind the scenes to replace
Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and the son responded, "I'm the decider
and I decide what's best" - and when he clenched his fist at a question
about his father's influence, proclaiming, "I'm the Commander in Chief" - we
glimpsed what was going on.

To cover up and defend himself against his feelings of his inadequacy
and incompetence, Bush developed a number of psychological defenses. In his
school years he played the clown. (His ability to joke about his verbal
slip-ups is an endearing adult application of this defense to public life.)
His heavy drinking was a classic way to anesthetize feelings of inadequacy.
Indeed, drinking typically makes the alcoholic grandiose, which has led some
commentators to argue that Bush has the "dry drunk" syndrome, where the
individual has stopped drinking but retains the brittle psychology of the
alcoholic. Other defenses now play especially powerful roles to protect the
president against his internal feelings of insufficiency.

The Christian Defense

Bush has carefully let it be known that he believes the decisions he
makes in office are directed by God. His famous claim to make decisions by
"gut" ("I'm a gut player," he told Bob Woodward) equates with his claim of
the spiritual inspiration he receives through prayer, his own and the
prayers of others. Whatever else it is, this equation of his own choices
with God's will has unparalleled advantages. It creates the perfect defense
against any doubts he or anyone else might have that he can't make the right
decision. The need to engage in analysis and explore alternatives to get
there comes off the table. Instead, he has his gut; he has his God.

Being "born again" also allows the president to present himself as
having relegated to the past all those previously inadequate behaviors of
his younger days: the poor academic performance, the drinking, the failed
businesses. He's a new man, no longer incompetent but now supremely
competent as a result of his faith.

When Woodward asked Bush if he had consulted his father before invading
Iraq, he replied, "He is the wrong father to appeal to in terms of strength.
There is a higher father that I appeal to." How wonderfully that appeal must
seem to resolve the internal conflict about adequacy we have described
above.

The Bully Defense

Bush's mother, Barbara (sarcastic, mean, disciplinarian, always with an
acid-tongued retort), is probably the model for another major defense Bush
deploys to defend himself against feelings of inadequacy. A friend at the
time described her as "sort of the leader bully."

That bullies are insecure people is well known and fairly obvious. A
bully covers insecurity with bluster and intimidation so that others won't
find an opening to see how weak he feels.

Much of the world outside the US considers Bush a bully. "You're either
with us or against us" is a bully's threat that anyone can recognize. The
Bush doctrine of pre-emptive strikes is a bully's doctrine.

For his intimates and those closer to home, Bush appears to be what is
called an emotional bully. An emotional bully gains control using sarcasm,
teasing, mocking, name calling, threatening, ignoring, lying, or angering
the other and forcing him to back down. Bush administration insider accounts
describe this sort of behavior from the president. He's well known for his
dismissive remarks. His penchant for giving nicknames to everyone has its
dark, bully's side. Naming people is a way to control them.

In report by Gail Sheehy in 2000, recalled recently by New York Times
columnist Maureen Dowd, we get a glimpse of how Bush's pervasive fear of
failure (his absolute refusal to consider "failure as an option") and his
bully defense go together. Sheehy interviewed friends from his teenage years
and college years. In basketball or tennis games he would insist points be
played over because he wasn't ready; he would force opponents who had beaten
him to continue playing until he beat them. At Yale he would interrupt his
fellow students' studying for exams (helping them fail) to compete in a
popular board game, "The Game of Global Domination," at which he was the
player noted for taking the most risks, being the most aggressive.

It's likely that speculations about Vice President Cheney, Donald
Rumsfeld and Condoleezza Rice functioning as Bush's puppet-masters are 180
(or at least 160) degrees off. Bush is the president; he gets his way, and
they know it. Chances are they have learned to channel his "gut" and give
him policy advice that matches it. They may even imagine they are steering
him, not clear about the ways that he has bullied them, elicited in them
"The Stockholm Syndrome," in which hostages come to identify with and even
defend the very person who is threatening them. This is the same dynamic
evident in the behavior of battered spouses and members of gangs.

Ron Suskind described the small group around the president: "A disdain
for contemplation or deliberation, an embrace of decisiveness - a sometimes
bullying impatience with doubters and even friendly questioners."

Biographical reports tell us that Bush's parents taught him to keep his
inner feelings to himself. As psychiatrist Justin A. Frank noted in Bush on
the Couch, this results in a "self-protective indifference to the pain of
others." This is another aspect of his bully defense, projecting his inner
pain onto others. Bush's remarkable drive for the power to torture terrorist
suspects and his reported glorying in Texas executions during his terms as
governor testify to his lack of compassion, despite his recent statement of
qualms about seeing Saddam Hussein drop through the trap.

The Man of Splits and Oppositions

Being in the world, for all of us, involves the challenge to somehow
integrate the opposites of our nature and to select our way through the many
opposing choices presented us in life. The bully polarizes the natural
ambivalence (the internal opposition) anyone feels about whether he is
strong or weak, safe or vulnerable. A person who needs to feel invulnerable
and completely adequate all the time, or who always feels helpless and
inadequate, has polarized these emotions and leads a deformed life. The
degree of internal polarization in President Bush appears to be serious -
and widespread. Commentators have made lists of the president's polarities:
the proclaimed uniter who is a relentless divider, the habit of "saying one
thing and doing another," as Vermont Senator Jim Jeffords put it. The list
is long and growing. It should include the oppositions that show up in his
famous Bushisms, such as:

There is no doubt in my mind that we should allow the world worst
leaders to hold America hostage, to threaten our peace, to threaten our
friends and allies with the world's worst weapons.

They [the terrorists] never stop thinking of ways to harm our
country and our people - and neither do we.

To a psychiatrist, these are not mere malapropisms and mistakes in
speech. They suggest ambivalence oscillating violently between poles. They
suggest a desperate uncertainty about everything that the president
reflexively seeks to hide by taking absolutist, rigid positions about
"victory," "success," "mission accomplished," "stay the course,"
"compassion," "tax cuts," "no child left behind," and a host of other
issues.

The Presidential Defense

Once Bush took the bullhorn at ground zero, he found perhaps the
ultimate defense for his secret fears of inadequacy. As he told Bob
Woodward, in Bush at War, "I'm the commander - see, I don't need to explain
- I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing
about being the president. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they
say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation." As
commander in chief, as a war president, he could assemble his other
psychological defenses around him. He could split the world into good and
evil and the country would follow. His internal oppositions could be
projected without much resistance from the populace or his adversaries. He
could be the gut-led, divinely inspired "Decider," to save the country. He
could project own internal fears of being "discovered as a fraud" into a
threat "out there" waiting to happen. He could surround himself with
loyalists whom he could emotionally bully, creating a new family that would
admire him and that he could control. Meanwhile the ambiguities of political
decisions that can always be rationalized offer a safe haven. Until history
judges me (and that's a long way off, maybe never) I can't be definitively
seen as incompetent.

But as much as the presidency is a perfect defense for disguising
incompetence, it's also the perfect trap. It accelerates the positive
feedback loop that was set in motion when he "changed his heart" around age
40 (committing himself to God) and presumably put his failures, and his
feelings of failure behind him.

In recent weeks, anyone following the news must have intuitively sensed
from watching and hearing the president that he would reject the Iraq Study
Group's report, co-authored by a person he must have felt was the emissary
of his father come to tell him that he had failed again. He chose
escalation, the one solution most knowledgeable people agree cannot succeed,
in order to keep alive the fiction that success still lies in the future.

The dynamic is becoming obvious to almost everybody.

But how much is Bush aware of this psychological dynamic and of the
secret he's keeping? Not aware enough. That's the problem. Psychotherapists
use the term "unconscious," but it isn't quite an accurate descriptor. We
are aware of feelings, sensations and scripts that occur when one of our
unseen psychic mechanisms is triggered. So, when an interviewer asked about
the generals who demanded Rumsfeld be removed, and the president knew his
father had been working behind the scenes to replace Rumsfeld, the question
would not have triggered the conscious thought: there goes dad again trying
to make me feel incompetent. Instead, the president may have felt a hollow
sensation or a flush of anger, an urge to form a clownish grin to cover his
watery feelings, and a script that would come out of his mouth as "I'm the
decider." Beneath that would be the inadequacy and cover-up dynamic outlined
here.

A president's psychology and his inner secrets are his or her own
business, except in one important area. That is area covered by the
question, "Does the psychology of this individual interfere with his or her
ability to make sound decisions in the best interest of the nation?" Recent
history has certainly been witness to presidents with psychodynamics that
have damaged their historical legacies. Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon come
to mind. But in neither case was the very ability to make sound decisions
compromised to the extent we believe it is with this president.

A Failed Process

Many accounts of the president suggest that his decision-making process
is a failed one; in an important sense, it is no process at all.

Ambivalent feelings are normal at certain stages of decision-making, and
the ability to tolerate ambivalence has been shown to be the hallmark of
creative thinkers. The inability to tolerate uncertainty because you think
that may imply incapacity brings decision-making to an end.

Thus, instead of focusing on the process needed to arrive at a decision,
Bush marshals his defenses in order not to feel incompetent. That doesn't
leave much room for exploring the alternatives required of competent
decision-making. Not interested in discussion or detail (where the devil
often lies), he seeks something minimal, just enough so he can let the
decision come to him; it's his "gut" (read "God") that will provide the
answer. But these gut feelings are the very feelings associated with his
deep sense of inadequacy and his defenses against those feelings. So while
he brags that he makes the "tough decisions," psychologically, he's
defending himself against the very feelings of uncertainty that are the
necessary concomitant to making tough decisions. His tough decision-making
is a sham.

In the recent maneuvering toward the "new strategy" in Iraq, we have
witnessed a great pretense of normal decision-making. But the president
clearly made up his mind almost as soon as the "surge" alternative appeared,
and apparently moved to cow others, including his new secretary of defense
Robert Gates (his father's man) in the process. "Success" is the only
alternative for him. "Failure" and disintegration of Iraq is unthinkable
because it would be synonymous with his own internal disintegration.

As his decisions go awry, he exudes a troubling, uncanny aura of
certitude (though some find it reassuring). He seems to expect to feel
despised and alone (and probably has always felt that), as he has always
secretly expected to fail. That expectation of failure leads to sloppy,
risky, incompetent decisions, which in turn compel him to swerve from his
fears of incompetence.

At this point, the president seems to have entered a place in his psyche
where he is discounting all external criticism and unpopularity, and fixing
stubbornly on his illusion of vindication, because he's still "The Decider,"
who can just keep deciding until he gets to success. It's hard not to feel
something heroic in this position - but it's a recipe for bad, if not
catastrophic, decisions.

Psychologically, President Bush has received support for so long because
many have thought of him as "one of us." Most of us feel inadequate in some
way, and watching him we can feel his inadequacies and sense his
uncertainties, so we admire him for "pulling it off." His model tells us,
"If you act like you're confident and competent, then you are." We are the
culture that values the power of positive thinking and seeks assertiveness
training. We believe that the right attitude can sometimes be more important
than brains or hard work. He's bullied us, too. We don't dare to really
confront the scale of his incompetent behavior, because then we would have
to face what it means to have such an incompetent and psychologically
disabled decision-maker as our president. It raises everyone's uncertainty.
And that is, in fact, happening now.

----------

John P. Briggs, MD, is retired from over 40 years of private practice in
psychotherapy in Westchester County, New York. He was on the faculty in
psychiatry at the Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center in New York City for
23 years and was a long-time member of the American Academy of
Psychoanalysis. He trained at the William Alanson White Institute in New York. J.P. Briggs II, PhD, is a Distinguished CSU professor at Western
Connecticut State University and is the senior editor of the intellectual
journal The Connecticut Review. He is author and co-author of books on
creativity and chaos, including Fire in the Crucible (St. Martin's Press);
Fractals, the Patterns of Chaos (Simon and Schuster); and Seven Life Lessons
of Chaos (HarperCollins), among others. He is currently at work with
Philadelphia psychologist John Amoroso on a book about the power of
ambivalence in the creative process.
 
Very interesting read MIJVintage, thanks for posting it. It seems obvious, yet it requires veteran academics to actually put it into words
 
C?mon guys.. this is the "Tokai guitars" forum.. if you want, continue the political rant in the "general discussion" :wink:
 
Alpedra said:
C?mon guys.. this is the "Tokai guitars" forum.. if you want, continue the political rant in the "general discussion" :wink:

Dittos....I would be happy to continue the Briggs discussion some where else, like a fiction or poetry forum for what Briggs is best known for writing, but not here.

http://people.wcsu.edu/briggsj/jbresume.html
 
Wyzeoldemaster said:
Alpedra said:
C?mon guys.. this is the "Tokai guitars" forum.. if you want, continue the political rant in the "general discussion" :wink:

Dittos....I would be happy to continue the Briggs discussion some where else, like a fiction or poetry forum for what Briggs is best known for writing, but not here.

http://people.wcsu.edu/briggsj/jbresume.html


+2 Don't expect any thanks from me. I don't come here to read political opinions from either side of the aisle. I could waste an hour of my life typing my response, but what's the point? Posting your political propaganda on a guitar forum is a pointless excercise in mental masturbation. This is the Tokai Guitars section. Unless George Bush or Hillary Clinton are playing goldtops, I don't really want to read about them here.
 

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