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Thought it would be interesting to show the earliest Tokais I have come across in one thread.

So far, Springys are the oldest Tokais of the Gibson/Fender clones.

Will post up to 8000750.
 
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Springys:

8000750 ST60 OW (marcusnieman)
8000721 ST100 N (Reverb)
8000720 ST100 OW (Faber Guitars)
8000678 ST50 (Registry)
8000656 ST100 BL (felixcatus)
8000635 ST65 N (Peter Mac provided)
8000615 ST80 GS R (Peter Mac provided)
8000611 ST80 GS (Peter Mac provided)
8000597 ST60 OW (Reverb)
8000584 ST60 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8000552 ST60 (Registry)
8000506 ST80 OW R (eBay)
8000434 ST60N (eBay)
8000420 ST60 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8000323 ST50 YS (muccax)
8000281 ST60 (Registry)

1977:

7000186 ST?? (Peter Mac provided)
7000108 ST?? YS (CliffsGuitarWorld)
7000105 ST50 OW (Peter Mac provided)
77000011 ST60 YS (CliffsComicWorld) *Note Serial starts with "770" and not "70".
 
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Les Paul Reborns:

8000671 Les Paul Reborn (Registry)
8000666 Les Paul Reborn LS50 (Registry)
8000579 Les Paul Reborn LS60 (Registry)
8000529 Les Paul Reborn LS60 (Registry)
8000515 Les Paul Reborn (eBay)
8000416 Les Paul Reborn (Registry)
8000373 Les Paul Reborn LS60 (registry)
8000349 LS80 (yahoo Japan - ampmaker)
8000325 Les Paul Reborn LS50 (Registry)
8000216 Les Paul Reborn LS50 (Registry)
8000191 Les Paul Reborn Gold Top (Registry)
8000189 Les Paul Reborn LS50 (Registry)
8000101 (1979 catalog photo back of headstock)
 
Silver Stars:

8000521 Silver Star (Registry)
8000490 Silver Star SS36 (Registry)
8000439 Silver Star SS36 BB (Reverb)
8000357 Silver Star (Registry)
8000324 Silver Star (Registry)
8000237 Silver Star SS36 (Registry)
8000106 Silver Star (Pinterest)
 
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Hard Punchers:


8000699 Hard Puncher PB48 (Registry)
8000358 Hard Puncher (Registry)
 
So this is the only overlap we have on serials? Fernandes FLG-60.
I can’t confirm that ST60 YS guitar. That number was provided by Peter Mac. He may have a photo of it. I would want to see a picture of it to be sure. He doesn’t come on the forum much anymore. If he pops in maybe he will see this and share pics.
 
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I’ve never actually looked to see if there were duplicates among neck plates on Fender clones and stamped numbers on Gibson clones.

I didn’t think it would be an issue because no one would confuse the two. Interesting idea.
 
This seems to be a good thread to leave this:

I already wrote about the LP replicas and their specific logo style trademark registration of March 7th, 1978 here:

https://www.tokaiforum.com/threads/...paul-reborn-lps-1978.26311/page-7#post-224251

First LP model trademark they registered is "Reborn" on May the 4th be with you, 1978:

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Here's the "Love Rock" registration (applied for September 1980):

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Fender-style guitars:

"Springysound" was registered as a trademark Oct. 31st, 1977:

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This is one of the many "dead" trademarks now since the registration was not renewed. It looks like the registration in late 1977 confirms why there are so few 1977 serials around - they just didn't have much 1977 left when they started making them! :)

Silver Star follows October 31st, 1979:

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I won't discard the possibility that trademark registrations could be applied for long after it was actually used (not before, because you may have to prove that you are actually using the trademark to keep it). However, it looks like Tokai was usually very timely in these things. One example is the registration of the "Final Prospec" mark:

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End of September 1981 sounds like that would've been just the time they also ordered the first batch of "FINAL PROSPEC" stamped hardware for the new 1982 product line production, "ZERO FIGHTER" was applied for March 4th, 1981... so apparently these trademark registrations can help (with lots of caution!) to pinpoint/verify/substantiate some dates and rumors.

Edit: added Reborn
Edit #2: added Silver Star
 
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