Getting a Tokai LS with long tenon
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MIJvintage
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marcusnieman
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blunty said:
I'd be more concerned about the other appointments of the guitar (pickups, hardware, etc) than just the tenon
marcusnieman
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blunty said:
Find a relatively good, inexpensive guitar - like an LS95 and upgrade the hardware to the Faber products offered by forum member togps and you'll have a monster player - sustain for days using an aluminum tailpiece with locking studs, bridge with brass saddles.
JohnA
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Agree Marcus, the tenon length is mostly cosmetic, a good neck join is a good neck join, and the fact a long tenon will give you more sustain is a myth.
marcusnieman
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JohnA said:
And a selling point reason to charge more $$$
JohnA
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blunty said:
Have a look at the Les Paul forum, or even this one. Everyone pulls outtheir neck pickup to photograph their tenon! I'm guilty too :wink:
IMO it's up there with bumble-bee repro caps and cloth wire! makes no difference but we all love it
JohnA said:blunty said:
Have a look at the Les Paul forum, or even this one. Everyone pulls outtheir neck pickup to photograph their tenon! I'm guilty too :wink:
IMO it's up there with bumble-bee repro caps and cloth wire! makes no difference but we all love it
OIC
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Thats why I'm looking for an affordable Tokai with long tenon to compete with the E-LP85CD on sustain... did an A/B with the LS125SEB out of bordom, can't believe it lose out :evil:Paladin2019
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blunty said:
Not necessarily. Modern manufacturing techniques mean that quality is more important than the type of joint used.
If you want sustain then Faber hardware will be a big help, as will heavier strings and a good setup. People are far too eager to change everything about their guitar when a few simple tweaks will do the job.
Paladin2019 said:
Not sure what you mean by modern manufacturing techniques, but have taken photos of the join on both E-LP85CD and LS125SEB. They looks different... one looks modern and the other, traditional... will post picture later.
But don't get the wrong idea, the LS125SEB do sounds sweet and the clarity is **** good!
So, inorder to increase the sustains on the LS125SEB, need to change the aluminum tail to Faber hardware? Thanks for the advice
Paladin2019
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blunty said:
In the old days the formula was that bolt-on necks had less sustain and set necks had more sustain. This was because bolt-on necks were cheap to make, so were fitted to cheap guitars but set necks were hard to do so were put on expensive guitars which were built better.
Nowadays you can find all types of joints at all the different price points. The key factor is how well the neck and body fit together, not the type of joint used for that purpose. I'd rather have a bolt-on neck joint made by, say, Tyler than a set neck made by Gibson.
blunty said:So, inorder to increase the sustains on the LS125SEB, need to change the aluminum tail to Faber hardware? Thanks for the advice
IIRC faber hardware has an aluminium tailpiece as part of the kit. The important parts are the locking mechanisms which provide superior contact and vibration transfer from strings to body.
With respect...
If you want sustain, learn how to improve your vibrato...if you think sustain comes from long tenons then you're bored.
No long tenon, no aluminium tail piece or brass saddles, no tubes, no CTS pots or bumblebees, just a stock LS95.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw2_AZ9lb6U
If you want sustain, learn how to improve your vibrato...if you think sustain comes from long tenons then you're bored.
No long tenon, no aluminium tail piece or brass saddles, no tubes, no CTS pots or bumblebees, just a stock LS95.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw2_AZ9lb6U
Diamond said:With respect...
If you want sustain, learn how to improve your vibrato...if you think sustain comes from long tenons then you're bored.
No long tenon, no aluminium tail piece or brass saddles, no tubes, no CTS pots or bumblebees, just a stock LS95.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw2_AZ9lb6U
After watching the video, guess I'm bored to compare sustain on the LPs
Can't afford Tokai with long tenon anyway... back to making sweet music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAWW6JjUJWE sweet sustain 8)
marcusnieman
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Diamond said:With respect...
If you want sustain, learn how to improve your vibrato...if you think sustain comes from long tenons then you're bored.
+1..... vibrato is the signature of your playing.
Heavier strings also helps sustain.
Diamond said:Nice playing...one problem...this is the Tokai forum, not the Edwards forum.
I know, thats why here looking for Tokai with long tenon
Guess Tokai's LS long or short tenon doesn't make any different
Thanks for the concern :wink:
