Could somebody help me identitfy this Love Rock?

Tokai guitar discussion

Moderators: ian, ned

wolfgang
I only know 3 chords
Posts: 16
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:11 am
Location: Minnesota and Elsewhere

Could somebody help me identitfy this Love Rock?

Post by wolfgang » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:39 am

Hi,

I've been checking out your site for sometime and finally took the plunge and bought a Tokai, but I'm a bit puzzled concerning its origins.
The serial number would suggest an 1981 LR, and it has a 2 screw truss rod cover consistent with Japanese Manufacture, BUT, the back plates are white as you will see in the following images.

The guy on Ebay never overtly claimed it to be Japanese, but it did write "Japanese guitar" on the custom's form.

Can anyone tell me what they think this is?
Thanks,
Wolfgang


http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tok6nm6.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tok1ma0.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tok2kg0.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tok3xp9.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tok4zl4.jpg
"Working toward world revolution, one powerchord at a time."

www.myspace.com/theatomicchihuahuas
www.myspace.com/wolfgangchihuahua

twinfan
Guitar God
Posts: 218
Joined: Thu May 31, 2007 3:06 pm

Post by twinfan » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:51 am

I'd say it's an '81 Japanese Love Rock, although I don't know which model number. Got to be an LS120 or above though as it has a flame top. Someone more knowledgeable will help I'm sure. :)

If you take the neck pickup out, there may be some information in the neck cavity?

wolfgang
I only know 3 chords
Posts: 16
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:11 am
Location: Minnesota and Elsewhere

Post by wolfgang » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:58 am

So the white back plates don't automatically make it korean?

I read somewhere on this forum that the white back plates are a red flag...

I hope not javascript:emoticon(':-?'), cause the rest of it seems to check out pretty well.
"Working toward world revolution, one powerchord at a time."

www.myspace.com/theatomicchihuahuas
www.myspace.com/wolfgangchihuahua

wolfgang
I only know 3 chords
Posts: 16
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:11 am
Location: Minnesota and Elsewhere

Pickups

Post by wolfgang » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:00 am

I took the pickups out, but there was only some illegible magic marker symbol---neither Japanese nor Korean by the look of it.

The pickups and pots are unlabled----
"Working toward world revolution, one powerchord at a time."

www.myspace.com/theatomicchihuahuas
www.myspace.com/wolfgangchihuahua

wolfgang
I only know 3 chords
Posts: 16
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:11 am
Location: Minnesota and Elsewhere

some shots of the pup cavities

Post by wolfgang » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:28 am

"Working toward world revolution, one powerchord at a time."

www.myspace.com/theatomicchihuahuas
www.myspace.com/wolfgangchihuahua

togps
Guitar God
Posts: 2067
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:32 am
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Contact:

Post by togps » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:34 pm

Wolfgang, welcome to the forum.
This guitar is lousy Tokai fake again.
Hopefully you'll get your money back.
Was it an Ebay deal?

wolfgang
I only know 3 chords
Posts: 16
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:11 am
Location: Minnesota and Elsewhere

Post by wolfgang » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:38 pm

So you're pretty sure its not even a Korean Tokai?
"Working toward world revolution, one powerchord at a time."

www.myspace.com/theatomicchihuahuas
www.myspace.com/wolfgangchihuahua

BaggyPants
Guitar God
Posts: 223
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:00 am
Location: South Yorkshire, UK

Post by BaggyPants » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:56 pm

It has the Korean screw adjust bridge on it :evil:

wolfgang
I only know 3 chords
Posts: 16
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:11 am
Location: Minnesota and Elsewhere

Post by wolfgang » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:03 pm

So is the serial number a fraud or does Tokai imprint the Korean ones like this?
"Working toward world revolution, one powerchord at a time."

www.myspace.com/theatomicchihuahuas
www.myspace.com/wolfgangchihuahua

togps
Guitar God
Posts: 2067
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:32 am
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Contact:

Post by togps » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:26 pm

wolfgang wrote:So you're pretty sure its not even a Korean Tokai?
Yep, it is definitively not even a Korean Tokai!

togps
Guitar God
Posts: 2067
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:32 am
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Contact:

Post by togps » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:30 pm

So is the serial number a fraud

Yes. The S/N is faked too. MIJ Tokais S/N's are not so heavy stamped
or does Tokai imprint the Korean ones like this?
No.

BTW, I ask you again:
Was it an Ebay deal?

wolfgang
I only know 3 chords
Posts: 16
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:11 am
Location: Minnesota and Elsewhere

Post by wolfgang » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:35 pm

Doch,
es war ein ebay deal.
"Working toward world revolution, one powerchord at a time."

www.myspace.com/theatomicchihuahuas
www.myspace.com/wolfgangchihuahua

togps
Guitar God
Posts: 2067
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:32 am
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Contact:

Post by togps » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:38 pm

So maybe the seller can be forced to refund you!
Pass us the Ebay link.

wolfgang
I only know 3 chords
Posts: 16
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:11 am
Location: Minnesota and Elsewhere

Post by wolfgang » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:40 pm

Here's the link


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=007
Unfortunately, I already left postiive feedback for the guy.
"Working toward world revolution, one powerchord at a time."

www.myspace.com/theatomicchihuahuas
www.myspace.com/wolfgangchihuahua

togps
Guitar God
Posts: 2067
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:32 am
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Contact:

Post by togps » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:45 pm

Errr...
Did you paid by PayPal?
There is a Buyer Protection Program.

Post Reply