tokai is getting just a bit ridiculous

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Post by JVsearch » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:35 am

I was wrong, Gibson are rubbish, and have been since about 1968.

Ever heard the notion where someone who gets a bad product tells 10 people about it, but those who get a good one don't say a lot? What happens when those 10 people tell a bunch of others and they disseminate it further based only on what they were told, without personal experience? Facts based on hearsay spreading like wildfire across the internet. It's at least possible that things aren't as bad with Gibson guitars as many say?

But I give in, I'm wrong. And I will admit that there have been some stuff ups from Gibby, and I've seen the photos to prove it, but those people were nearly all given a replacement guitar under warranty. From what I've absorbed on TGP and the LPF, it's not as bad as some make out.

BTW, I didn't call anyone a liar, there were question marks at the end of those 3 sentences, I wanted clarification. My own experience (played many and owned 6) has been so far removed from what has been described by Mick, Viking and others that I just feel it is necessary to put forth a view on the internet that is not "you have to play 20 to get a good one".

The food manufacturer analogy could be better compared with the guitar "dog" scenario by accepting that we can make large quantities of processed food that is safe but doesn't have much taste or nutritional value.

Anyway, I'm fine with being wrong, and being a mean spirited twat or whatever you want to think of me. I can say that, because I actually am quite mean spirited!

In the end we've had different experiences with Gibsons.
Totally biased towards Japanese made guitars.

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Post by luis » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:43 am

My LS-320 compares to any good Historic no dubt,I?m really so pleased with it it?s really difficult finding any guitar to repalce it,it?s very special with a great feel and an even sounding with strong bass.I have played some good Tokais but no one compares to this.I guess who the inside builder was?

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Post by vaporboy » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:54 am

So, just out of interest are both my Tokais Fakais? (pictures posted earlier) My apologies for starting a mini WW3 bye the way !!

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Post by vikingblues » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:16 am

JVsearch wrote:Anyway, I'm fine with being wrong, and being a mean spirited twat or whatever you want to think of me. I can say that, because I actually am quite mean spirited!

In the end we've had different experiences with Gibsons.
I'm afraid I'm just old, disillusioned, and bitter - you wouldn't think it from my posts would you! :)

And yes you're right - different experiences.

It would be really dull if everyone thought the same like those in power would prefer.

And vaporboy, my apologies for my part in hijacking the thread. Not to mention my contribution to the WW3 hostilities. :oops:

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Post by SteveDoG » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:34 am

Just out of interest..There was dealer use to do *Korean Tokais*. They looked the bomb and had Mahogany bodies etc etc..Did a really bright Orange one and a Wine Red one. Where these the Fakaas everyone refers to?

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Post by vaporboy » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:04 am

I wonder if anyone really knows, it seems there are Tokai's from all over (at least it seems that way to me, as a layman). For example - the 2 guitars I posted pics of earlier haven't been categorically labelled as 'Fakais' by the experts as yet - I suspect they are? Hence my rant at the beginning of the thread which was a bit strong reading back to be honest, must have been having a bad day.

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Post by JVsearch » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:42 pm

vikingblues wrote:And vaporboy, my apologies for my part in hijacking the thread. Not to mention my contribution to the WW3 hostilities. :oops:
Thanks for adding this. I've looked back over the thread, and it was mostly my fault. :oops:
Totally biased towards Japanese made guitars.

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Post by marcusnieman » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:59 pm

JVsearch wrote:
vikingblues wrote:And vaporboy, my apologies for my part in hijacking the thread. Not to mention my contribution to the WW3 hostilities. :oops:
Thanks for adding this. I've looked back over the thread, and it was mostly my fault. :oops:
Can't you just feel the love here, folks? Now, what's the topic? :wink:

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Post by SUSHI GUY » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:31 pm

8) feel them and remember what the love was/is.......j

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:wink: TJ.

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Post by SUSHI GUY » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:37 pm

:D and have a break.......when is your bike be completed mickman?

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:wink: she is Norika Fujiwara. Japan's no.1 actress/model/more.......j

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Post by marcusnieman » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:45 pm

SUSHI GUY wrote:
:wink: she is Norika Fujiwara. Japan's no.1 actress/model/more.......j
What's the "more"?

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Post by SUSHI GUY » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:47 pm

marcusnieman wrote:
JVsearch wrote:
vikingblues wrote:And vaporboy, my apologies for my part in hijacking the thread. Not to mention my contribution to the WW3 hostilities. :oops:
Thanks for adding this. I've looked back over the thread, and it was mostly my fault. :oops:
Can't you just feel my love here, folks? Now, what's for the love? :wink:
8) and this is marcus' love.....for us.....actually pretty lovely.........even beautiful.......

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Post by SUSHI GUY » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:51 pm

marcusnieman wrote:
SUSHI GUY wrote:
:wink: she is Norika Fujiwara. Japan's no.1 actress/model/more.......j
What's the "more"?
:P no porno but just bits of many things.....she helps for UNICEF too ........

http://www.norikanesque.com/

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Post by marcusnieman » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:02 pm

SUSHI GUY wrote:
:P no porno but just bits of many things.....she helps for UNICEF too ........

http://www.norikanesque.com/
Cool... I wasn't fishing for porn (no pun intended). Just wondering what else she did - mixed martial arts, motocross, etc.

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Post by SUSHI GUY » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:14 pm

marcusnieman wrote:
JVsearch wrote:
vikingblues wrote:And vaporboy, my apologies for my part in hijacking the thread. Not to mention my contribution to the WW3 hostilities. :oops:
Thanks for adding this. I've looked back over the thread, and it was mostly my fault. :oops:
Can't you just feel my love here, folks? Now, what's for the love? :wink:
8) marcus is really being hot here ...........

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