Identification Help

[Neilh]

I hate to come on here and immediately ask questions regarding identifying Tokai guitars but they don’t have a big history in my part of the world. They come up from time to time, and I really like late 70s, 80’s MIJ product. Well, any MIJ product really! Identifying Tokai guitars is a challenge.

So this is listed as an ‘86 Breezey. Thoughts. Other than the Pots that say MIJ, nothing else indicates it is what it is. Help a brother out?

 

[Sigmania]

I don't see a serial number. Other than that it is an ATE. I suspect much newer. Need a serial number.

 

[Neilh]

I don't see a serial number. Other than that it is an ATE. I suspect much newer. Need a serial number.

No serial number on the back of the headstock, or the backplate. Nothing as far as a “Made in Japan” sticker or decal anywhere….. I posted the best pictures that I thought would help.
Not sure what the value should be… if real and MIJ…

 

[Homer J. Simpson]

Is that a reflection or is the body glue seam off-center? Only pictures of the stamps in control and/or neck cavities and the neck heel stamp (or the lack thereof) could make that less mysterious. but no stamping on the bridge, nothing on the neck plate, no serial, a slab fretboard , ATE headstock...

...deja vu: help identify Breezysound with no stamp or serial or made in
(same pics, same guitar)

 

[ATO]

Looks like a weird 3 piece body.

 

[Neilh]

Is that a reflection or is the body glue seam off-center? Only pictures of the stamps in control and/or neck cavities and the neck heel stamp (or the lack thereof) could make that less mysterious. but no stamping on the bridge, nothing on the neck plate, no serial, a slab fretboard , ATE headstock...

...deja vu: help identify Breezysound with no stamp or serial or made in
(same pics, same guitar)

Good eye! Yes, same guitar! I’ll read that thread, thanks!

 

[Neilh]

Is that a reflection or is the body glue seam off-center? Only pictures of the stamps in control and/or neck cavities and the neck heel stamp (or the lack thereof) could make that less mysterious. but no stamping on the bridge, nothing on the neck plate, no serial, a slab fretboard , ATE headstock...

...deja vu: help identify Breezysound with no stamp or serial or made in
(same pics, same guitar)

Interestingly he mentions it was from Saskatoon. Must have been a dealer there as I noticed another white one, again, other than the headstock name and MIJ Pots, no made in… or serial number…
Probably from around the same period.

 

[Sigmania]

I am not sure if this fits but the Canadian Tokai distributor got in all sorts of trouble in the mid 2000s for commissioning bogus Tokais in Korea.

I find it odd that two of these show up in the same area in Canada. Interesting coincidence.

And I am not seeing any pictures in the areas that would help us out, neck pocket, pickup routs and control cavity. Probably just a harmless omission, but makes it hard to know what's up.

 

[Neilh]

Interesting to hear that. If one isn’t familiar with the brand it’s hard to know what one is looking at. He’s asking a lot from the pricing I have seen and ones online have more “distinctive” traits than this one…

 

[Homer J. Simpson]

What I find puzzling is the absence of the "Made in Japan" print on the neck when the guitar looks otherwise like ATE55s sold e.g. in the UK.