Greco vs Tokai vs Fernandes necks

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ChickenSoup
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Greco vs Tokai vs Fernandes necks

Post by ChickenSoup » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:41 pm

Hi. I have played 1982 (I guess) and 1985 Tokai Silverstars. The older one (black one) played like heaven (soundwise), all pickup combinations are perfect usable 10000 times more than any NEW Fender (maybe except custom shop). The 1985 player worse, it is even in worse shape (frets are worn off too much) but I had one problem with those guitars - the neck is too thin for me. And I dont mean the size only, but also the distance between strings - those Tokais felt like violin to me, or a children guitar - the string were too close to each other that I had to pay a lot of attention. I am used to 7.25 inch radius from my 50s style Fender, so its not the case.

Do you know if the Greco and Fernandes neck are the same as Tokais, or if they have different shape?

Thank you for any info :wink:

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Re: Greco vs Tokai vs Fernandes necks

Post by the_dude » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:06 am

I have read that the 57 style guitars from the Fernandes Revival series have chunkier necks. I have an RST-50 64 modal which is based off a 64' strat and has a slightly thinner neck. But I wouldn't say as then as the modern C necks.

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Re: Greco vs Tokai vs Fernandes necks

Post by guitar hiro » Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:29 pm

I can't offer much but here ya go

Fernandes: The Revival, serial # range L060***, round laminated rosewood 'board (like a '64)
nut width: 1 5/8"
neck thickness @ fret 1: .802"

Greco: Super Power SE, from February, 1982/serial # range B82****, maple neck as a '57
nut width: 1 11/16"
neck thickness @ fret 1: .878"

Tokai: Goldstar Sound, circa 1984, serial # range L2****, round laminated rosewood (like a '64)
nut width: 1 11/16"
neck thickness @ fret 1: .835"

That is only three examples but what I find interesting is the nut width on both the Greco & Tokai are 1/16" wider than the Fernandes The Revival. That may not seem like much but could be a thing, for some folks.
I would consider neck width at the nut to be extremely consistent from example to example, within any particular brand/model line.
Conversely, I would not expect the same with neck thickness, as I have had several Goldstar Sound examples, some with thinner necks, and some with pretty healthy/thicker necks.
From my experience the earlier Goldstar Sound examples seem to (generally) have thicker necks than later examples.
YMMV

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Re: Greco vs Tokai vs Fernandes necks

Post by ChickenSoup » Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:43 am

guitar hiro wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:29 pm
I can't offer much but here ya go

Fernandes: The Revival, serial # range L060***, round laminated rosewood 'board (like a '64)
nut width: 1 5/8"
neck thickness @ fret 1: .802"

Greco: Super Power SE, from February, 1982/serial # range B82****, maple neck as a '57
nut width: 1 11/16"
neck thickness @ fret 1: .878"

Tokai: Goldstar Sound, circa 1984, serial # range L2****, round laminated rosewood (like a '64)
nut width: 1 11/16"
neck thickness @ fret 1: .835"

That is only three examples but what I find interesting is the nut width on both the Greco & Tokai are 1/16" wider than the Fernandes The Revival. That may not seem like much but could be a thing, for some folks.
I would consider neck width at the nut to be extremely consistent from example to example, within any particular brand/model line.
Conversely, I would not expect the same with neck thickness, as I have had several Goldstar Sound examples, some with thinner necks, and some with pretty healthy/thicker necks.
From my experience the earlier Goldstar Sound examples seem to (generally) have thicker necks than later examples.
YMMV

thank you very much for your reply. I will be trying that Tokai next week, Im not sure if I will get used to that thin neck. I have Fender Blacktop which doesnt have thin or thick neck (littlebit thicker than mexican Fenders) and also some Ibanezes that have very wide necks but thinner thickness

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