The Earliest Springys

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Re: The Earliest Springys

Post by Sigmania » Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:18 am

Very interesting.

Here's a pic of the pickup route from the '78 ST100 N with the inked serial number.

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https://reverb.com/item/45066196-1978-t ... t=45066196

And for comparison a '78 ST80 BB with the serial number on the neck plate.

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https://reverb.com/uk/item/37630238-tok ... 1978-black
That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R Springy, '81 TE120 Breezy, '82 LS120 Love Rock, '82 JB50 Jazz Sounds

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Re: The Earliest Springys

Post by Suki » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:03 am

Looking through Iain's book, from what I can see from the pictures, the routing/serial theory seems to stand up.

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Re: The Earliest Springys

Post by Sigmania » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:11 pm

Another early (1978) ST100.

It is 1 digit away from the ST100 N above. #8000720.

Photos courtesy of fellow member Gottfried at FaberGuitars.

https://www.faberguitar.com/navi.php?a=3394&lang=eng

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That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R Springy, '81 TE120 Breezy, '82 LS120 Love Rock, '82 JB50 Jazz Sounds

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Re: The Earliest Springys

Post by Sigmania » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:13 pm

Current list:

1978:

Plate stamped & small neck plate:

8003675 ST80 BB "Plate Stamped" (eBay)
8003028 ST60 BB “Plate Stamped” (bluejeannot)

Ink stamped on neck inside pocket:

8002152 ST42 BB (Peter Mac provided)
8002111 ST60 BB Fernandes (eBay)
8001885 ST80 OW R (Peter Mac provided)
8001633 ST50 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8001578 ST60 YS (Reverb) *Guessing on the "1" digit.
8001532 ST55 N (Peter Mac provided)
8001198 ST42 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8001196 ST42 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8001148 ST50 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8001001 ST50 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8000984 ST60 YS (eBay)
8000963 ST?? OW (posted by tokaigeek & Jeremycanlapan)
8000946 ST50 BB (posted by topaxe)
8000836 ST60 YS R (Peter Mac provided)
8000774 ST42 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8000750 ST60 OW (marcusnieman)
8000721 ST100 N (Reverb)
8000720 ST100 OW (Faber Guitars)
8000656 ST100 BL (felixcatus)
8000635 ST65 N (Peter Mac provided)
8000615 ST80 GS R (Peter Mac provided)
8000611 ST80 GS (Peter Mac provided)
8000584 ST60 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8000420 ST60 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8000323 ST50 YS (muccax)

1977:

7000186 ST?? (Peter Mac provided)
7000105 ST50 OW (Peter Mac provided)
77000011 ST60 YS (CliffsComicWorld) *Note Serial starts with "770" and not "70".
That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R Springy, '81 TE120 Breezy, '82 LS120 Love Rock, '82 JB50 Jazz Sounds

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Re: The Earliest Springys

Post by Sigmania » Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:30 am

Wonder what the serial number is on this one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tokai-Tokai-S ... 632-2357-0

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That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R Springy, '81 TE120 Breezy, '82 LS120 Love Rock, '82 JB50 Jazz Sounds

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Re: The Earliest Springys

Post by Sigmania » Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:59 pm

By the time this catalog came out, the ST100 is spec'd with a flame (tramoku) neck.

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● ST-100 The body is a sen dress that has been carefully placed. The maple neck has a perfect "tramoku" (horizontal grain like a tiger's sima). The colors are BL, N. Half 100,000.
That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R Springy, '81 TE120 Breezy, '82 LS120 Love Rock, '82 JB50 Jazz Sounds

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Re: The Earliest Springys

Post by siamackz » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:13 pm

I believe my 42 is a mid 1978 production, only stamped on neck pocket with serial 8002075. Still trying to figure out how to post pics here, but this is the web page with pics of my guitar- https://www.siavintageguitars.com/tokai-st-42

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Re: The Earliest Springys

Post by Sigmania » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:50 pm

That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R Springy, '81 TE120 Breezy, '82 LS120 Love Rock, '82 JB50 Jazz Sounds

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Re: The Earliest Springys

Post by Sigmania » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:22 pm

Current list:

1978:

Plate stamped & small neck plate:

8003675 ST80 BB "Plate Stamped" (eBay)
8003028 ST60 BB “Plate Stamped” (bluejeannot)

Ink stamped on neck inside pocket:

8002152 ST42 BB (Peter Mac provided)
8002111 ST60 BB Fernandes (eBay)
8002075 ST42 YS (siamackz)
8001885 ST80 OW R (Peter Mac provided)
8001633 ST50 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8001578 ST60 YS (Reverb) *Guessing on the "1" digit.
8001532 ST55 N (Peter Mac provided)
8001198 ST42 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8001196 ST42 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8001148 ST50 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8001001 ST50 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8000984 ST60 YS (eBay)
8000963 ST?? OW (posted by tokaigeek & Jeremycanlapan)
8000946 ST50 BB (posted by topaxe)
8000836 ST60 YS R (Peter Mac provided)
8000774 ST42 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8000750 ST60 OW (marcusnieman)
8000721 ST100 N (Reverb)
8000720 ST100 OW (Faber Guitars)
8000656 ST100 BL (felixcatus)
8000635 ST65 N (Peter Mac provided)
8000615 ST80 GS R (Peter Mac provided)
8000611 ST80 GS (Peter Mac provided)
8000584 ST60 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8000420 ST60 YS (Peter Mac provided)
8000323 ST50 YS (muccax)

1977:

7000186 ST?? (Peter Mac provided)
7000105 ST50 OW (Peter Mac provided)
77000011 ST60 YS (CliffsComicWorld) *Note Serial starts with "770" and not "70".
That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R Springy, '81 TE120 Breezy, '82 LS120 Love Rock, '82 JB50 Jazz Sounds

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