Goldstar AST-62 - new member seeking ID help

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Goldstar AST-62 - new member seeking ID help

Post by BeeOBee » Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:15 am

Hello - I'm in the process of thoroughly cleaning my new (old) Goldstar Sound and hope to gather some info re: its age, pickup type, etc.

From the label attached to the back of the neck it's plain to see that it's a "50" - the Goldstar Sound label, shape of the headstock and L20141 serial number all lead me to believe that it's an AST-62 model Fender Strat replica, but I'm curious as to the year of manufacture (or "best approximation")?

Also, what can you tell me about the "E" stamped on the back of the gray felt pickups - (I'm thinking that the "F"-looking stamps are actually "E" as well)

In addition, the "9 = 7 BB V" in the controls cavity - I realize that the BB indicates the color, but the "9 = 7" has me stumped as well as the "V"?

Any info is sincerely appreciated - many thanks.

Here are some pictures: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmVqtZYR

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Re: Goldstar AST-62 - new member seeking ID help

Post by mdvineng » Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:42 am

Hi.
looking like mid 80's
the E pickups were a hangover from the Springy series and were marked V for Goldstars, this change over was around 84. 5.7<5.8k wound for that classic clear tone.
The markings are generally accepted, though there are a few exceptions, to be manufacturing pairing numbers. pre 85 have an = sign and post have - but depending on time of year and what was in stock, there is always a blending period during changesa as your neck only has a dot!
American export headstock.
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Re: Goldstar AST-62 - new member seeking ID help

Post by BeeOBee » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:30 am

Thanks for all the good info - BTW I've discovered (on this board/forum) referrals to "F" branded pickups and was wondering if you had opinion as to whether or not my bridge/neck pups actually ARE "F"'s - maybe not just "E"'s that have a worn lower stem?

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Post by mdvineng » Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:19 am

No F's
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Re: Goldstar AST-62 - new member seeking ID help

Post by BeeOBee » Sun May 02, 2021 7:55 pm

So having done some more research it appears that my new (old) Tokai is an '82-83 TST50 modelled after the '64 Fender. However I could use some edification on a few items:

- fingerboard radius is closer to 9.5 than 7.25
- E pickups on my model are apparently the same ones as used in the Springy Sounds, yet my headstock is the re-shaped one specifically for the American Market? Which would seem to indicate a timeframe older than 82-83?
- any ideas would be appreciated thanks!

new pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/22354648@ ... 9033417917

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Post by mdvineng » Mon May 03, 2021 12:52 am

The Goldstar name became official in 83 and the decal changed to reflect that also, yours is that decal. The headstock shape first appears in the 83 cat https://www.vintagejapanguitars.com.br/ ... gue-vol-1/
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Re: Goldstar AST-62 - new member seeking ID help

Post by BeeOBee » Mon May 03, 2021 11:03 am

I have to say, I'm still confused - and having read a post by Peter Mac (way back in 2002) I am switching back to thinking that it could be an AST-62 model, due to his (Peter Mac's) statement that some "L" serial numbered Goldstars (ie those having the reshaped "export" headstocks) were also copies of '62 Fender Strats.

HOWEVER I still have a question, and it's an obvious one - can some please tell me why - if my Tokai is an "AST-62" - why isn't it labelled as such on the headstock? Instead, it's just a "Tokai Goldstar Sound"?

Am I missing the point here, which is, not all models made for the US Market were labelled AST-56, or AST-62, or even for that matter, as TST50's?

Again - please pardon my "ignorance" on the subject, and have a look at the pictures at this link - there should be sufficient info there collectively, to give me a "best guess".

Peter Mac, are you "there"?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/22354648@ ... 9033417917

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Re: Goldstar AST-62 - new member seeking ID help

Post by mdvineng » Mon May 03, 2021 1:19 pm

AST62 is the style of Fender it is replicating, if it is an AST62, what makes you think it is. It's still a 50 model number.

See page 3 https://www.vintagejapanguitars.com.br/ ... gue-vol-1/ headstock decal

I'm using Peter's book for reference and the catalogues
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Re: Goldstar AST-62 - new member seeking ID help

Post by BeeOBee » Mon May 03, 2021 5:16 pm

"If it is an AST62, what makes you think it is."

U shaped neck
Original E vintage staggered pole pickups
Nickel Kluson style Deluxe machine heads with split poles
Cloth covered wires for pickups and controls
Steel tremolo block
Brass pickup and control network shielding
L20141 serial number
9 * 7 on heel of neck
9 = 7 BB V in controls cavity
Final Prospec on saddles

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Re: Goldstar AST-62 - new member seeking ID help

Post by mdvineng » Tue May 04, 2021 12:19 am

The wiring has been modified, probably when the pot was replaced with that mexico one, the rest is standard fitting.
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Re: Goldstar AST-62 - new member seeking ID help

Post by BeeOBee » Tue May 04, 2021 5:55 am

Yes I have both before and after pictures - original pot's volume shaft was broken.

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