LS144 Gold Top Love Rock 1954 type

sandroliva54 · Jul 28, 2022

Hi, I'm new to this Forum.
I have just bought on Reverb a Tokai Love Rock replica of a 1954 Les Paul (Gold Top, P90s, WrapAround tailpiece).
I couldn't find any infos about this guitar, except for a YouTube video in which it's said it's a very limited edition labeled as LS144.
Does anybody knows more about it?
I will get the guitar in around 10 days, so I don't know its SN yet.

mdvineng · Jul 28, 2022

Going to need at least the reverb link and then lots of pictures etc.

sandroliva54 · Jul 28, 2022

https://reverb.com/item/58230766-tokai-les-paul-1954-goldtop

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

sandroliva54 said:
Does anybody knows more about it?
I will get the guitar in around 10 days, so I don't know its SN yet.

Serial number is in the photos. 2008 guitar.

2006-7 catalog

https://vintagejapanguitars.com/tokai-2006-2007-catalogue-vol-23/

2009 catalog

https://vintagejapanguitars.com/tokai-2009-catalogue-vol-24/

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

Pics

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

I don't see a gold top in there with a wraparound and the P90s. Just Juniors.

I did find this 2006 LP Standard with wraparound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HYOjvh6u1s

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

Wonder if it was some sort of short run or special order model?

Not a catalog item evidently.

Maybe someone else will chime in who knows?

Beautiful guitar. Congratulations

sandroliva54 · Jul 28, 2022

Sigmania said:
Serial number is in the photos. 2008 guitar.

2006-7 catalog

https://vintagejapanguitars.com/tokai-2006-2007-catalogue-vol-23/

2009 catalog

https://vintagejapanguitars.com/tokai-2009-catalogue-vol-24/

I had already checked the back Tokay catalogs, and this guitar is in none of the above, nor in any other one.
I think this one was part of a very limited run (12?) built in 2008 for German Faber Guitars dealer.

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

Ahhh. Ask him. Gottfried is a member here (togps).

I am sure he will respond to a message through the Faber website.

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

Different version

LS-1 R4

Labeled "Reborn Old"

Fretboard inlay, LS-1

More recent 2017 (?) run for Faber.

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25192

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

LS1 R4 “Reborn Old” version:

https://www.faberguitar.com/Tokai-LS1-R4-GT-Reborn-Old_1

Specs. Tokai Reborn Old, LS1 Customshop

Solid Canadian hard rock maple top
One pcs. body African mahogany
One pcs. neck African mahogany
Open book headstock shape
Long tenon
Rosewood fret board
Fret edge binding!
Vintage Celluloid fret board inlays
LS-1 ID on 12th fret board inlay
High gloss polished jumbo frets (Nickelsilver)
Faber Germany hardware
CTS pots
Switchcraft jacks
Orange drops
Belden wire
'50s style wiring
extremely thin semi-gloss lacquer
selected 5A-class mahogany - max. weight 3950 gram! (8 lb and 9.5685 oz)
Lifton '59 Reissue case
Certificate of authenticity (COA)
Certificate of CITES

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

Yet another version.

Old listing on Digimart without the inlay. Reborn Old.

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

Version like your 2008 model.

Edit: Incorrect label. Not an LS144.

TOKAI "LS 144S WA '52 Goldtop" @ Estudio 54 Guitarras

https://www.facebook.com/estudio54s...rsoByJP6pmINy4MzM7aTIL4pdRsrNWA-YQ&tn-str=k*F

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

And another Reborn Old version.

Here is a Reborn Old with the weird headstock. American version?

https://reverb.com/item/4585568-tokai-les-paul-ls1-r4-reborn-1954-reissue-r4-gold-top

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

So it looks like there were several limited runs of this model by Faber over time?

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

I think this is the video you mentioned stating limited run of 12? Not sure of the age of this one.

Note that they do not call it an LS144, but an LS-2 R4.

sandroliva54 said:
I couldn't find any infos about this guitar, except for a YouTube video in which it's said it's a very limited edition labeled as LS144.

Definitely reach out to Faber/Gottfried.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYEcQ7L2FAA

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

The Faber site gives specs for the LS-1 R4 Reborn Old.

“Specs. Tokai Reborn Old, LS1 Customshop”

sandroliva54 · Jul 28, 2022

The one in the video looks exactly like the one I have bought.
Also on the Faber Web Site they are selling a "1952 conversion from a 2008 1956 Tokai Love Rock", which should confirm that that year there was a limited run of my model

Code:

https://www.faberguitar.com/Tokai-LS186S-GT-2008-H97_1

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

The Facebook one looked like it too. Not sure what year that guitar is. Can’t see the serial number.

Sigmania · Jul 28, 2022

Looks like there are some differences between your 2008 Love Rock version (LS2R4) and the circa 2016 "Reborn Old" version (LS1R4) from the Faber site.

https://www.faberguitar.com/Tokai-LS1-R4-GT-Reborn-Old_1

Specs. Tokai Reborn Old, LS1 Customshop

Solid Canadian hard rock maple top
One pcs. body African mahogany
One pcs. neck African mahogany
Open book headstock shape
Long tenon
Rosewood fret board
Fret edge binding!
Vintage Celluloid fret board inlays
LS-1 ID on 12th fret board inlay
High gloss polished jumbo frets (Nickelsilver)
Faber Germany hardware
CTS pots
Switchcraft jacks
Orange drops
Belden wire
'50s style wiring
extremely thin semi-gloss lacquer
selected 5A-class mahogany - max. weight 3950 gram! (8 lb and 9.5685 oz)
Lifton '59 Reissue case
Certificate of authenticity (COA)
Certificate of CITES

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25192

LS144 Gold Top Love Rock 1954 type

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