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Because I'm a guitar merchant and I want to import it to europe but it depends of the price it is sold at auction bid and the value of the guitar. The beauty of the guitar makes me think of an high end model and I've seen that 80 000 yen model could have goto pickups too
And goto means nothing as far as value of the opickups. They have made a wide range of pickups. All that tells you is that they were made in Japan.

Notice the hexagonal pole pieces. that is a dead giveaway.

If you are a guitar merchant you probably want to do a lot of reading before you make a purchase. You are one among many on here.
 
Thanks, it is not the dream but a beautiful model, and it surely sounds amazing, kind of thing to bring to a true guitar shop. Because on the web market it has not a real interest compared to original tokaï. But these 80s were really a blessful era for all these japanese plant.
 
I need you because I'm about to buy more les paul japanese models and I don't know a lot, I'm a fender specialist, and a fender player
 
Good to know. There are probably other members on here in France. You may want to add that to your profile in case someone is looking for members in France?

And shipping is typically not refundable. So say a seller tells you that the guitar is not damaged. You buy it. It arrives. It is damaged. You are upset and want to return it. Then you realize that you may now be on the hook for the shipping back to the seller as well as the shipping you paid to get the item. From Japan to France and back that is not cheap.

I would ask for detailed pictures of that area of the neck.
 
After more than 20 instruments imported I totally trust japanese sellers. When there are big problems they don't hide it. It's probably the light and the angle.of the picture that make you think something is broken on the neck.
 
Yeah, so the question is who made the Grecos you mentioned? Lots of similarities between inkies and the Nagano Silver Stars with Greco and FujiGen builds.
Good point. I'm not too familiar witu the Nagano Silver Stars.

Do the inkies not share the typical Toaki traits? Square pickup routes, and similar cavitys? Or are they different than typical Tokai builds?
 
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Have a look through here and note the doweled tenons, the Fujigen like routs on SS models, etc.

Inkie LS and LC Tokais of Nagano Gallery
Tokai In Nagano
Thanks for sharing this. I wasn't aware of this.

Please forgive this next question if it has been answered, or seems dumb, but how is it known that they were built in Nagano but the factory/manufacturer isn't known?

They seems to share some traits of typical Tokai (square pickup routes) with non typical tokai traits like tenons and volutes and control cavity routes...
 
Not sure. People have been saying that on here forever. Not sure of the source of that information. Some things just aren’t shared publicly for various reasons. I would like to know as well.
 
If I remember that all right, there were rumors that Tokai had another factory in Nagano as in "Tokai factory" early on, likely an oversimplification by people not familiar with how these things work in Japan. Why would Tokai build another factory 250km across Honshu island and have them make Tokais quite different from the Hamamatsu Tokais...for only a year or two, only for two models?

Later we learned that many of these guitars (only LS50s and Silver Stars IIRC) look internally and externally identical to Grecos from the same era that are commonly said to be Fujigen production, but we have no definitive documentation or proof that these particular Grecos were really made by Fujigen either, so we prefer to say "unknown factory..." - for the time being, and assuming that the factory was in Nagano prefecture we still say "...in Nagano")

Complications are that there were also ink stamped higher tier "real" Tokais prior (?) to the "Nagano" inkies and that not all inkies share all of the Greco traits - some look like 100% Hamamatsu, some have e.g .the Greco dowel tenon joint and volute etc. but a body with some or all of the typical Tokai routings. How exactly (who delivered parts to whom, who assembled them where...) these guitars came into existence is not known. The evidential similarities to Grecos is all we really have and all we can say for sure is that this limited line of guitars from that short era is different from the regular Tokais.

A plausible theory is that Tokai outsourced production of a few LS50 models due to high demand and the Hamamatsu factories working at capacity, but that's just a theory.
 
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