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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrazenPicker wrote:
Mmmm thanks. Interesting. Sometimes I wonder if this fixation on rare Honduras / Brazilian woods is more about marketing than tone, but I can't speak from experience. What started me thinking along those lines was a recent thread on thegearpage started by Terry McInturff (guitar builder) where he asked forum members about their opinions on a 2-piece vs. 1-piece back. He was saying that it's increasingly hard to find good slabs of Honduran mahogany large enough for a one-piece back, but that he still can get plenty of good-quality slabs large enough for a 2-piece back. He's also of the opinion it would not matter with regard to tone but was afraid the market simply wouldn't accept it. I suspect that a talented builder could seek out superb African mahogany that's better than what's left of the Honduran (especially at high volume), and build better guitars from it, but good luck getting people to pay 4-5k USD for it.

Anyway, not to derail your thread. Like I said, I haven't played these guitars. Some day I'm sure!


Great woods are harder to find by the day, that's true. I can only comment on the Brazilian woods as I have just bought a PRS Modern Eagle I with solid Brazilian rosewood neck & fretboard but it does make a huge difference. A slab of this wood rings like a bell when you hit it so you can imagine how well it conducts vibrations. I would expect the Honduras mahogany to be denser than its African counterpart...

Shame it has been exploited so badly it will never be used again...well not for another 200 to 300 years anyway!

Good to see something on the LS320s! They have always tickled my curiosity.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there!

In own this beauty now for 3 years, and it is the first and only guitar that I'm sure of keeping 'til I die,-))
2002 LS320VF


I pretty much changed everything, except for the potis, jackplate and the tuners.
Unfortunately the Vol pots on this guitar work really crappy, but after 3 years somehow I got used to it,-))
I am not too sure if the mounting rings for the Humbuckers are stock, or if the preowner changed them, because they are too "white" looking for Tokai plastic.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonas,

That is simply stunning! It's the first 320 or higher that I've seen that I seem to like the top even better than mine. Damn straight you're keeping it (but please do call if you change your mind).

What pickups are in it now? I love the look of double whites with that finish.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi currypowder!

Thanks a lot for the kind words! Actually I thought nearly the same, when I saw the pic of yours,-))) I will never sell it, sorry, that's for sure, I walked a long mile to get it and actually it's pretty beaten up now, so at least cashwise I don't think I would get a good deal....and it is just the perfect Les Paul for me. Even if I'd convert to Strat or something like that, I would keep it for the looks and sentimental reason only, I'm sure,-))

Interestingly, when I bought the guitar in the shop I was a little bit disappointed by the flame, because it looked somehow weird to me. When I had it home and opened the case in the sunlight I was really shocked how dramatically different it looked then. Depending on the angle you see either thick flames or quilted figure, it never looks the same.

As for the pickups, those are Zhangliqun pure handwound Zhangbuckers, imo really great pickups for a decent price.
Reagrading the colour of the bobbins, well, I am not totally sure about that, because I loved the look of double whites in vintage Bursts, but mine are a little on the creamy side, depending on the light they look like old DiMarzios or nearly perfectly matching with the M69's. I've seen various double white humbuckers from other winders, but they all differ in the colour. I think, the most authentic would be a bone colour, a tad lighter than mine are, but what the heck, I love the look of my guitar!,-))))

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats Jonas
I am absolutely not the quilted kind of guy but this is such a gorgeous piece of wood - just breathtakin'.
Never sell it anymore is the only acceptable decision ! Enjoy !

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonas that was mine before for a good while, i loved that guitar..





should never have sold it!!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Villager!


Yes, I know, you told me a year or 2 ago, and I saw it a while back on your website, small world,-)))
I never asked you, but did you change the pickup rings on this one, or are they stock? I'm asking, because they look completely different than the plastic on the other Tokais I owned, not pink at all.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i changed nothing..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi villager!

Thanks for the info! Well, as stated before, I changed nearly everything, lol,-)))
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello everyone, what a great club to be a part of. Some drop dead goregous guitars here. I figure I should bring my newly accuired LS-380 VF to the party.


When I bought this guitar the stock J.M. Rolph humbuckers were replaced with new Tom Holmes 450/455 humbucker set (uncovered; these are handmade in the U.S.A. by Tom, not the Japanese-licensed ones), the stock CTS pots were replaced with RS Guitarworks Long Shaft Super Pots, and the Bumblebee caps were replaced with the highly-rated RS-designed Danish-made Jensen Oil and Paper caps. RS Guitarworks preformed all the modifications.
Keep em' coming!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can any of you tell if any wood fillers are used on the mahogany backs of the Tokai LS-320+? Gibson DOES typically use a wood filler on the mahogany backs of their guitars. The reason I ask is I know NO fillers were used on my 2009 Gison LCGP #245. Larry Corsa of CV Guitars ordered the guitars from Gibson WITHOUT fillers and only sanding sealer was applied. A while back I asked the fine folks at Japan Vintage Guitars and their answer was NO fillers were used on the mahogany backs of the Tokai LS-380. I cannot find anything on the web that specifically states Tokai's finishing procedures.

Thanks for you help,
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bodark wrote:
Can any of you tell if any wood fillers are used on the mahogany backs of the Tokai LS-320+? Gibson DOES typically use a wood filler on the mahogany backs of their guitars. The reason I ask is I know NO fillers were used on my 2009 Gison LCGP #245. Larry Corsa of CV Guitars ordered the guitars from Gibson WITHOUT fillers and only sanding sealer was applied. A while back I asked the fine folks at Japan Vintage Guitars and their answer was NO fillers were used on the mahogany backs of the Tokai LS-380. I cannot find anything on the web that specifically states Tokai's finishing procedures.

Thanks for you help,


I can't answer your question, but have to say how beautiful your guitar is. I hope you enjoy it!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks mydogiszen, I am enjoying the guitar daily!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ampmaker wrote:
Here's a pic of my '03 LS-320. Thanks to Yoshi at GS Universe!

Apologies that it's only a small pic, and rather washed out, but it's the only one uploaded at the moment.



Good god! Amazing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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