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Can you help date this Silver Star?

 
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Martyn27uk
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:28 pm    Post subject: Can you help date this Silver Star? Reply with quote

Hi,

I have a Tokai Silver Star, which I've owned since 2007.

It's black on black with maple neck, skunk stripe and three screw micro-adjustable neck cover. It's as near as dammit a perfect copy of my '77 Fender Strat.

The serial number is on the tremolo spring cover - 5026459

No label to identify the model. I know the picks ups have been replaced.

Headstock reads "The Quality Musical Instruments of the World" under the black script Tokai logo. There's no "Oldie" logo further along.

Grateful for any information!


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J.E.M.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me that looks like a 1985 and a lower model, maybe a 38 judging by the tuners and saddles which both look original, someone will probably say post some more pics with the guard and neck off for a more conclusive answer...
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Martyn27uk
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. Itís due a string change so Iíll see whatís under the neck then.
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Peter Mac
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,

This is definately not a 1985 Model.
It is much, much later - maybe 2005. The logo is more modern than 1985 plus serial numbers on 1985 models were under the 'Tokai' logo and the banner ' the Quality Musical Instruments of the World' did not appear at all and there was no 'Oldies but Goldies' either. The rest was blank.
It appears more modern to me, but at this point I could not say which Year exactly. As SilverStars were initially for the Japanese Market only, it is quite difficult to find references to them in any English printed catalogs.
The choice of location for the serial number is closer to 1954 Strats than 1976 ones but the font is correct for Tokai guitars - albeit Gibson replicas, not Fender.
It could well be this is a Korean or Chinese outsourced Model. Maybe contact the Factory themselves as they could put a better time on it.

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Martyn27uk
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:24 am    Post subject: 1995? Reply with quote

Thanks Peter,

To be honest, when I got the guitar in 07 it felt like a guitar that was more than two years old... the tremolo block is labelled Made in Japan so Iím hoping that holds true for the rest of the guitar.

Is the leading ď5Ē on the serial number a date code? 1995 would fit better with the guitarís ďfeelĒ. I have the original PUs somewhere, might they give me a clue? Iíll take the neck off when I change the strings but as far as I know there isnít usually a date stamp on the neck, unlike Squiers.
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J.E.M.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the second Silver Star recently that's been a bit of an oddity and it seems like other models, we still don't know all there is to know about the Silver Star's... but deferring to Peter's opinion is a sound choice.

The more pictures you post the more informed the comments will be, post pics of all body cavities and electrics and the neck including the butt end then we'll see where the discussion goes.
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viliam_krahulec
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:14 am    Post subject: TOKAI identification Reply with quote

Hi guys. That seems exactly like my case.
Cant help myself, but it does not look like a very high quality build.
It reads MADE IN JAPAN on the bridge block from the inside...
SN: 5028448 (on the back cover plate)
I would be really thankfull for your opinions.
Providing some photos..
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Thank you

EDIT: I do not know why those IMGs arent showing up... Tried different hostings...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.imagebam.com/image/b8682b1274394044

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viliam_krahulec
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Brokentoes.

So I tried to contact Tokai via their official webpage. Was not hoping for an answer, but this appeared in my inbox:

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tokai_contact@tokaijapan.com
so 13. 7. 11:51 (pred 2 dňami)
komu: ja

Hello Filip,

From the pictures, it seems to be TSS38 BB made in Japan and made around 1985.

Tokai
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So I am really not sure now...
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Peter Mac
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SORRY FOR THE DELAY IN REPLYING>

i have not seen this type of wiring before on an old Tokai. It is not from 1985, thats for sure.
The body routing is correct, even the neck pocket, but lack of body code stamps definately puts it outside my era. Neck stamp [8-1] shows it was produced after 1986.
It definately looks original, even the solder joints, so if I had to put a guess forward from the comments and pictures I would hazard 1995.
Hope this helps

Peter
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