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Help me identify this model - possible fake tokai

 
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helixmendes
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:51 pm    Post subject: Help me identify this model - possible fake tokai Reply with quote

Hi.
I was searching for a semi hollow body guitar, and I found online this weird (I guess) tokai model.

https://m.olx.pt/anuncio/tokai-es-160-cb-hard-case-IDBvpBx.html?position=5&page=1

The seller claims is a mij tokai es160. I can tell just by the truss rod cover or isn't. Also, it has block inlay, in the first fret.
Can you help me identify this model? What about its value ? Could it be a real 160 Korean or China model?

Thanks very much
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brokentoes
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks really fake in so many ways i would hate to start counting them.

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helixmendes
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean like a fake tokai? (Aliexpress)? I know heritage series may look like this one, but just can't find information about it
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Paladin2019
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a shocking example of fakery and fraud. There isn't even a picture of the headstock logo, just a picture of a sticker! It probably doesn't even say tokai on there. Nothing about this guitar is legit which is why there's no information anywhere.

The guitar is fake and the seller knows it. Avoid.
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helixmendes
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It ringed a lot of bells. Although I'm not a tokai expert,I knew it wouldn't be a Japanese model. The seller Is trying to deal well below the price. What's the value of a guitar like that? What's the origin? Is it aliexpress like,or Canadian fake like?
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Paladin2019
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

helixmendes wrote:
It ringed a lot of bells. Although I'm not a tokai expert,I knew it wouldn't be a Japanese model. The seller Is trying to deal well below the price. What's the value of a guitar like that? What's the origin? Is it aliexpress like,or Canadian fake like?


It's hard to get tell because the seller is being deliberately deceptive. I would guess a cheap Chinese no-name that's been re-badged. Don't take the risk. It's a foolish purchase at any price.
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felixcatus
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

helixmendes wrote:
It ringed a lot of bells. Although I'm not a tokai expert,I knew it wouldn't be a Japanese model. The seller Is trying to deal well below the price. What's the value of a guitar like that? What's the origin? Is it aliexpress like,or Canadian fake like?


Naught, to me it's about integrity.
I wouldn't even consider buying (even if it was a 'great quality, give away priced') fraudulent guitar.
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helixmendes
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help guys!
I'll keep on searching.
Cheers!
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brokentoes
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck and thanks for coming here before you bought.
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bluejeannot
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://reverb.com/uk/item/4807416-tokai-es-160-sr-vintage-series-es-style-electric-guitar-see-though-red This is what the genuine article looks like.
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