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Tokai ls80 no FEB?? What is the FEB rule?

 
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aroomstudios
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:49 am    Post subject: Tokai ls80 no FEB?? What is the FEB rule? Reply with quote

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bwhsp6NWygH8cmc4dHdfbGQwcnc

The guys says this is a LS80. I was thinking about buying this guitar for a few minutes then I got over it and am looking for something else. The guitar looks like a 1985 as per the SN 5030228. I thought guitars of this time had FEB if it was a LS80 and up? Is there some other rule to FEB? I would like to know the FEB rule as I see at lot of guys trying to pass off LS80's and so that are actually LS50s.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According the serial no. > it is not a Tokai.
Japan Tokais do feature a stamped S/N
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But that's definitely a MIJ guitar. Aren't all the fakes MIK and MIC? Looks legit to me, but I don't have much experience with the older stuff.

The FEB idea was a special sub-series. It wasn't really part of the main line and wasn't a premium feature. It certainly wasn't around in 1985, it only ran for a couple of years much more recently.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am pretty sure they had it before that check out


1980

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tokai-LS-100-1980-Love-Rock-Solid-Top-Les-Paul-Type-W-H-case-FREE-SHIPPING/122552356137?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649



1980

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tokai-Love-Rock-LS-80-1980-CHSB/122566356571?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649


1981

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOKAI-LOVE-ROCK-LS80-LES-PAUL/253022784288?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

This is what is really getting me. All three of the above guitars had FEB.

FEB= fret edge binding
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOH! I was thinking of SEB!

Could it have had a refret? Is there a model number stamped at the bottom of the fretboard? Markings under the pickups?

Fred edge binding is overrated IMO. I'd rather play on metal than risk getting my high e trapped in a bit of plastic. Or pay a fortune for refrets.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought one on ebay last night. It was actually listed here in the classified section.

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23883

I was just asking about the FEB as from what I saw it looked like a way to distinguish Lower end models LS 50 LS60 from higher end models LS80 and above. Seriously I could care about the actual FEB I just thought it was a way to pick out people lying about their LS50's saying that they are LS80 and so no.

An yes the guitar could be a re-fret but it is too clean to have needed a re-fret in my opinion. That is a reason I think this guy is lying and is actually a 50 or 60. But I could be wrong about when FEB stopped that is why I made this post. Either way I bought one last night so it does not really matter now. Maybe I will buy another one in the future maybe not. I have 3 LS Tokais now so who knows.
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