18 watt Marshall clones?

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Post by Guitargoblin » Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:51 am

Plus, if you wanted the 18W to sound like a JCM 800, there's some pedals that would get you close. The Maxon Distortion Master & the old Marshall Shredmaster (long discontinued, but Ebay is heaving with them) both spring to mind. Good luck!
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Post by leadguitar_323 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:49 pm

Thanks for the replies fella's, i know that there are some good pedals around but i'm a bit old fashioned, i like the simplicity of a guitar straight into an amp, so the quest to find the perfect amp continues............ :)
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Post by TSL » Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:52 pm

leadguitar_323 wrote:Next question,

is it possible to build an 18 watt or small wattage amp with the charecteristics of an early eighties 2203 jcm 800 Marshall.....??
If that's the amp you ultimately want, save up and get one. Trying to make one amp something else results in spending extra money and still not being happy.

If you can find an 18 wt Marshall, original, reissue,clone, whatever near you, check it out. It will heavy rock like nothing else. If you just want to shred, you have tons of choices.

Really, all the Les Paul players on this forum that are traditional serious rock players should check out those clones. $500 for the amp, wired ready to go, $300 for a repro cab, $100 for a speaker you like, say a Celestion Grennback, or a Vintage 30. Easy to carry, WAY louder than any drummer, and extreme joy for under $1000.

I'll really stop my preaching now, it's just these are the perfect ROCK amp, regardless of other amps you may like. I have several other close seconds, but the 18 watt IS the holy grail...

ceriatone.com for amps

mojotone.com for boxes to put the amp in.

No, I don't work for either company.

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Post by leadguitar_323 » Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:40 am

G'day TSL if it was the amp i ultimately want i'd already have it.
I've only recently found out about these amps, in AUS we find everything out second hand lol. Just asking a lot of questions before i buy...... can't be to careful don't like wasting money . :wink: thanks for your comments
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Post by orvilleowner » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:03 pm

The Quest to Find the Perfect Amp!!

Wow, good luck. No amp can do all .... but in the category of small practice or bedroom amp, the winner is the old Marshall "Lead 12" (Model 5005) from the 80's. It's a simple one channel plug in your guitar and roar type of amp. Check out the comments on it in the Doyle "History of Marshall" book and the most recent Vintage Guitar mag (w/ Clapton on the cover). If you are looking for a Bluesbreaker tone, this will deliver.

I've had mine about 19 years and mostly use if for rehearsals but I have done small gigs with it. It can sound good at low volumes, but if the situation calls for it, it sounds so sweet dimed.

This little "demon" (as Doyle put it) was made in the UK and has a Celestion 10 inch. Stay away from any Marshall product not made in the UK.

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Post by tudor » Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:10 am

What do you think about the 18 watt Dr Z MAZ jr Head ????
This is what I'm looking for ... because it's ready to play - I'm not familiar in building one for myself ... 8)

If you want you can take the version with additional reverb unit ... I love to have a reverb - not much but just as much as necessary ... :lol:

But - it's expensive ... the bad point. :cry:

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Post by leadguitar_323 » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:31 pm

Have found my 18 watt clone actually i'm going to get their 36 watt model
anyone interested in having a look go to www.ceriatone.com and have a look . Great prices too :D Thanx TSL
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Post by TSL » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:38 pm

Hey Tudor, Ceriatone will send you the amp fully assembled and ready to use. You do need to mount it in a box though.

Not only do they have great products and prices, but the service is fantastic!

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Post by tudor » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:50 pm

TSL,

Thanks alot ... I just gave them an email !! :wink:

Looking forward to this answer ... 8)

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Post by Alpedra » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:04 am

Not only do they have great products and prices, but the service is fantastic!
Ditto! I?ve bought a tweed deluxe and a 18w TMB from Nick @ Ceriatone a while ago.. and I couldn?t be happier. I haven?t had any GAS for amps since then :wink:

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Post by 8bit Barry » Mon Jan 01, 2007 6:48 am

Can anyone tell me where you can get cabinets for amp heads in the UK? I am really interested in getting a Ceriatone 18w TMB for gigging as my 2X12 Marshall is breaking my back. The only issue is I would rather not pay $350 for a wooden cab if I could source a maker in England

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18 watt clones/Low wattage valve amps

Post by exgibsonuser » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:19 am

For everyone in the UK, there's a few good kits out there from www.ampmaker.com, a 5w 12AX7/EL84 amp with TMB stack and an 18w clone with just volume & tone. These are very competitively priced and ampmaker.com also sell the ply amp head cabinets to match. I didn't make one, instead buying a couple from a guy in Essex who builds his own (Chris Uff - English Valve Amps). They are only on Ebay at the moment but if you see one, they are competitvely priced, sound amazing and are works of art internally (wiring layout etc). I've got the 5w EL84, a 7w with one EL34 (two stage cascading gain with two 12AX7's) and finally the 18w head (with TMB and switchable tone circuit for a remote gain boost). They all might be low wattage but they are all very loud!

Here's one that was sold recently (a 5w head)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0066782436

Once you've had a real amp again, you don't want to go back to the bad old days!!

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Speaker cabs for low wattage amps

Post by exgibsonuser » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:24 am

To follow up on the last message in terms of speaker cabs to go with the low wattage kit at reasonable prices (not 4x12's). Award-Session do some very good ply speaker cabs in 2x10, 2x12 an 1x12 formats at around ?100 empty but ready for use and wired. An alternative is also the Vox 2x12 cab (ply) it's only around ?150 in the UK ready to go (with cheap speakers though) and sounds great with decent speakers in (that's what I've got plus a 2x10 Award-Session cab w/Celestions). Forget cheap stuff like the Marshall AVT series etc - they are made from MDF...

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Post by 8bit Barry » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:42 am

I was having a look at Mojotone and those cabs look great, the only problem is it will cost if I get stung for VAT.

I am almost thinking about a Ceriatione JTM45 head instead of an 18w, that and a 2X12 cab. Then again I wanted an amp that wasnt going to break my back gigging.... I think I need to go and have a word with myself!

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