Killer LS120 on Fleabay

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Killer LS120 on Fleabay

Post by ochay » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:24 am

This is a Nice un.......
82' Tokai LS120 Love Rock Solid Tiger Maple Flame Top

http://cgi.ebay.com/82-Tokai-LS120-Love ... dZViewItem


There is another nice 1983 LS80 -
http://cgi.ebay.com/1983-Tokai-LS80-200 ... dZViewItem
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Post by villager » Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:08 pm

lovely 120...and 80....wish they were '80 or '81 tho...

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Post by oldflame » Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:43 am

That's the one I posted up a link to in another thread. Okay we can talk here.

That's a hell of a first bid. Not sure if i'd pay it but hats off to anyone who wants to pay this kind of wonga for it.

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Re: Killer LS120 on Fleabay

Post by togps » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:26 pm

ochay wrote:This is a Nice un.......
82' Tokai LS120 Love Rock Solid Tiger Maple Flame Top
The bidder before ochay cancelled his bid.
Maybe not so a killer LS120!!

I bet, it is not a LS120.
Anyhow, ochay, you are the (lucky?) winner.
Pass after the receive of the guitar, a pic to the forum, with a view into its neck cavity, for proof. I bet, there is not a deep joint. ( Which is a must for a 1982 LS 120!!)

If so, BTW, congrats, you own now a 1982 LS80 (LS100) :wink:

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Post by oldflame » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:45 pm

Great top. It may be too good to be a high end model. Then again, I have no doubt that Ochay knows his Tokai's. I hope vapour mans know's what he's selling cause they'll be trouble if he don't. :oops:

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Post by villager » Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:24 am

vapourman is pretty good on his sales...I would be surprised if this was not as he describes...togps...what makes you think its not a 120?..please let us know for future reference..

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Post by oldflame » Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:26 am

Well I think it's togps who is a little mor dubious than me. However, most of the fancy tops I've seen on Tokais belong to the LS100 range. I'm sure you remember when Tokai flooded the UK market around 83'-84 with the Love Rock range. Most of the guitars were veneer models. Although the higher end models were listed in the 'Blue Suede Music' price list I never saw one. I spoke to lots of dealers and nobody had the guts to get one in. The price of a top ender was too near the Gibson Lester range so the average music shop wouldn't entertain it. Obviously and typical of the UK music shop scene back then, they didn't have a F*ck*@G clue.

So, I was left to doing my own leg work. Being an avid reader of LOOT almost everyday during the 80's 90's and a bit of the 2000's, I made dozens of trips around London and the countryside snapping up all sorts of Tokai's (amongst other things) but never came across the top end jobs. Most guys owned LS50's LS60's and LS100's in the usual colours gold, black and veneerd sunburst and although they thought they had something special, they didn't. Of course I educated them after pulling the pups and showing them the thin veneer on the suburst models. Some said thanks, others said nothing. Probably did after I left (HA! :lol: )

Of course now that we have ebay, we can buy anything we want from anywhere (except China if you have any sense) so we are spoilt. Shame cause I rather liked the travelling about. Often after work or at the weekend to go look at guitars, amps and the like, haggle a bit with the owner and walk out with a new toy. Ebay has f*uc@ed that a bit but my heart pumps when I'm sniping and I'm still a kid in a sweet shop when something turns up on the door step :)

To be honest, although the top end LS's eluded me in the UK, I lost a bit of interest in the model once I picked up my first Historic Lester. Didn't see much point anymore.

I still have my 2 Springy sounds that I totally swear by as the best Strats I've ever owned be that vintage or new and I have a great double edge bound Breezy in Lake Placid Blue. Still have my white 81' TLC60 too. Probably the nicest of all the Tokai Lester's I've owned.
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Post by togps » Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:23 am

villager wrote: .... togps...what makes you think its not a 120?..please let us know for future reference..
With pleasure I try to help.
As you may know, all 1978-1982 LS120 and above, features a deep neck joint into the neck cavity.
That is a fact!
Following pics was sent by the ebay seller vapourman to a bidder.


Image

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After receive of the pics, the bidder decide to cancel his bid. Because this "LS120" feature no deep neck joint. Simple!

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Post by villager » Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:58 am

and do you have a deep neck joint pic to compare?

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Post by togps » Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:19 am

Sure. I'm out of office for the weekend. I'll shot a pic next week.

Ask forum member Rossi. He could help meanwhile too. I saw a cavity pic of his LS120 Ebay auction.

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Post by tokaigeezer » Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:29 am

oldflame wrote:Great top. It may be too good to be a high end model. Then again, I have no doubt that Ochay knows his Tokai's. I hope vapour mans know's what he's selling cause they'll be trouble if he don't. :oops:
Yes, there could be big trouble on the horizon. Mr. Ochay may start calling him the dreaded "B" word. :wink:

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Post by oldflame » Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:30 pm

That looks like the thin veneer I've seen on so many Tokai's. I hope it's not. It's so hard to tell looking at pictures though.

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Post by ochay » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:03 am

FYI-
Vaporman is the guy that got me interested in Tokai's B4 Ned even started the Registry-He is the master-

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Post by villager » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:34 am

well.... that looks like the neck joint on all my reborn 120's ..unless I am missing something here....

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Post by ochay » Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:02 pm

you know the deal Villager !

For the most part I don't even bother trying to educate people.

All of the Tokai's Les Pauls (46) I have had --
have been pre 1883-
(1/2 of those bought from the original Japanese owners)
I have had several later Tok LP 1990/91/92's -also one 1998
--I have opened and photographed every single one .....
ALL of the neckjoints are the same !!....

no way
to reason with some people.

I have met too many "experts" that look at pictures and think they
know more than the people
who have owned many of them rather then dreamed they have or will.
Point being>>>>>
They all (Early LS120's) have the same Neck Joint .
:wink:

http://images.lilypix.com/thumbnails.php?album=1851
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