Id Japanese made Tele - Tokai / Ibanez ?

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-Alan-
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Id Japanese made Tele - Tokai / Ibanez ?

Post by -Alan- » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:34 pm

Spotted for sale locally. Best clue probably comes from the 'Made in Japan' neck plate.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instru ... 1348203454



Anybody confirm who made it ?

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Post by brokentoes » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:33 pm

That looks like the old Dana's that i used to see around my parts. I would guess Teisco or maybe Mats made.

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Post by -Alan- » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:26 pm

Interesting. Thanks for that.

Never heard of either of those makes. A bit of googling threw up this Sears and Roebuck Teisco Tele which seems to share a lot of the construction details:

https://reverb.com/ca/item/1682805-sear ... 969-teisco

Any more background on the Teisco thing brokentoe - were they budget guitars manufactured for big retail chains like Sears Roebuck for example ?

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Post by brokentoes » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:37 pm

I always thought the Teisco's pumped out a lot of very cheap/budget. They could have landed the Sears contract. Some were made of plywood etc.. however they did come up with some really interesting designs and i believe they had higher range models as well. Mats made (Matsumoku) i feel were a step up usually in quality. The serial number plate looks like its from an old Mats made guitar, but the rest doesn't so it's probably a hodge podge partscaster of many different guitars to make one.

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Post by -Alan- » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:01 am

Yeah - I hadn't considered that it might be a Bitsa: the neckplate looks to have been on and off a few times, and not always with the involvement of somebody with the right tools :)

At £350 / c. 425 of your USD, unless it's hiding a signed letter inside the body somewhere confirming it is a once-off experimental thing hand built by Leo himself, its vastly overpriced. And even if it did, then it's probably still questionable at that price :)

Thanks bt. Helpful input as ever.

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Post by Blackout2112 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:36 pm

Neck plates that say Steele adjustable on them are thought to be on Matsumoku made guitars.Newer mats 1983 etc just say Matumoku on them.

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Post by -Alan- » Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:22 am

That might tie in with being a 2001 unit - manufactured in Matsomoku perhaps.

Either way, too rich for me, by about a factor of 3 :(

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Post by brokentoes » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:51 pm

Mats closed down in 1987. That guitar is much older than even '87.

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Post by -Alan- » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:25 pm

^ Oops sorry - 2001 ? Jz. Meant to say '81 - but that's probably reading too much into the 01***** serial number.

Hard to believe all the Mats guitars are at least 30 years old by now.

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