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St50 goldstar daphne blue

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:18 pm
by Jonwe
I'm looking at this st50 on eBay in daphne blue allegedly 1984. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192283378339

The seller kindly shared photos of the neck, cavity and pickups here : http://imgur.com/a/aso2Q

questions for the forum:

1: is it an st-50?
2: is the lack of serial number normal?
3: is that a Tokai body and neck?
4: is the price realistic?

Thanks for your help on this - GAS for a Tokai strat is bad right now.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:53 pm
by dombat
No serial number on the neck plate?
"made in Japan" on the neck heal ?

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:44 pm
by J.E.M.
I have an 84 LS50 and 84 TST80 both with that made in Japan sticker, the LS50 has it across the top of the headstock above the 50 sticker, the TST80 has it in the same place as that Daphne Strat, below the 80 sticker at the bottom of the heel - so the MIJ sticker as I'm sure others will tell us, is legit.

That whole guitar looks legit to me except for the neck plate which would for sure have the serial number and I think has been changed - so there may be a reason that's the only part of the guitar that's been changed - everything else looks right to me for an original Tokai...

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:03 am
by mdvineng
some Tokais from around the 80's had no serial number on the neck plate, see example http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php ... 8&start=15

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php ... ial+number

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:23 am
by Suki
Looks OK to me. Brass plate and innards are correct. The only anomaly is the neck plate.

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:47 pm
by J.E.M.
mdvineng wrote:some Tokais from around the 80's had no serial number on the neck plate, see example http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php ... 8&start=15

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php ... ial+number
Those would be very early Springy's with small neck plates not later Goldstars.

AFAIK there are no '84 TST's without serial number on the plate so reasonably certain it's been changed for whatever reason...

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:55 am
by iam
you have a PM ;)

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:36 pm
by Peter Mac
Hi guys,

This is a pretty nice guitar but some of the details are incorrect . .
The model is a TST-55 SO (Sonic Blue) not Daphne Blue. The wiring, pickups and scratchplate are all 100% ; the neck and body stamps match [ 6=7 ] and the 'Z' shows it was an export model.
The neckplate should/would have had a 5 digit number starting 21xxx - similar to the 1958 Strat this guitar was replicating.
One 'amusing' thing is that in 1958, Fender did not use custom colours - you had a choice of Black, 2T-Sunburst or Blonde. . . but never mind.

Congrats

Peter Mac

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:38 pm
by Jonwe
Thanks Peter - appreciate the detail you give and the effort you put in.