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Why does my 1985 love rock has a dimple on the headstock?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:17 am
by justpickin
In the middle of the open book headstock there's a dimple..I see other that came after, and they don't have it....Can anyone explain...

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:05 am
by marcusnieman
I don't think the dimples were around in the 80's. Tokai produced them for their export models for copyright concerns.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:56 pm
by justpickin
I think they where. Can anybody explain further the contrary

Check this out... http://s731.photobucket.com/albums/ww31 ... in_photos/

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:01 pm
by AlanN
Can you post bigger pictures?

Also, what's the serial? Can you post a pic of the back of the headstock, and a closer pic of the front of the headstock?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:10 pm
by justpickin
AlanN wrote:Can you post bigger pictures?

Also, what's the serial? Can you post a pic of the back of the headstock, and a closer pic of the front of the headstock?

I will when I get home. Thank you again for your replys...

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:20 pm
by marcusnieman
Once again, dimples were put on the headstocks of export guitars for copyright reasons. If yours has a dimple, then that's why. If it's an 85 as you say, go to the catalog section and have a peek there.

In a prior post about your guitar, you wanted to know if you paid too much and again asked about the dimple.

If you want us to help identify what you have, then you need to provide the following pictures. Without them, it will be as frustrating to you as it is for those who are trying to help:

Front and back of headstock
Front and back of body
Underside of pickups
Body cavities and any markings after the pickups are out

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:35 pm
by justpickin
marcusnieman wrote:Once again, dimples were put on the headstocks of export guitars for copyright reasons. If yours has a dimple, then that's why. If it's an 85 as you say, go to the catalog section and have a peek there.

In a prior post about your guitar, you wanted to know if you paid too much and again asked about the dimple.

If you want us to help identify what you have, then you need to provide the following pictures. Without them, it will be as frustrating to you as it is for those who are trying to help:

Front and back of headstock
Front and back of body
Underside of pickups
Body cavities and any markings after the pickups are out
OK. Will do. Pics provided momentarily. Thanks again

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:05 pm
by marcusnieman
Cool....that'll help us all see what you see and hopefully let you know what you have. If you paid a grand for an 85 LS, depending on exactly what it was, probably not bad. It's just the dimple that's throwing me off.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:03 pm
by leadguitar_323
Interesting, The fender style guitars had a headstock change around this time but i have never seen a "dimpled" 1985 Love rock. I was under the impression they started much later.

Mick

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:42 pm
by TOKAI JOE
8) we all know today that the recent uk edition tokais have a dimple
but i think i remember sure that the american market edition guitars
basically all had a dimple around 1984. or from 1984. when tokai really
seemed to be expanding their sales everywhere after the 1978-1982
vintage replica golden years. i saw them w/dimple in the tokai american
catalogs from the mid 80s. not super sure but almost sure. that good
catalog site called vint-axe?..............j


http://www.vintaxe.com/menu_catalogs_electric.htm


8)

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:38 pm
by Ozeshin
leadguitar_323 wrote:Interesting, The fender style guitars had a headstock change around this time but i have never seen a "dimpled" 1985 Love rock. I was under the impression they started much later.

Mick
But remember Mick...us Aussies have NEVER had to suffer the dimple.
For as long as we've had Tokai..and right up til today we STILL don't have the dimple on our guitars.
Obviously the long legal arm of G***** doesn't reach so far...mind you ...any more articles like the one in Australian Guitarist drwing attention to the brand may cause us some trouble down the track. :P

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:18 am
by NWOBHM
TOKAI JOE wrote:8) we all know today that the recent uk edition tokais have a dimple
but i think i remember sure that the american market edition guitars
basically all had a dimple around 1984. or from 1984. when tokai really
seemed to be expanding their sales everywhere after the 1978-1982
vintage replica golden years. i saw them w/dimple in the tokai american
catalogs from the mid 80s. not super sure but almost sure. that good
catalog site called vint-axe?..............j


http://www.vintaxe.com/menu_catalogs_electric.htm


8)
Your right, Tokai Joe I remember them aswell ,when they were new. I own an 85' Love rock with the dimple. I got a front pic loaded to photobucket. I need to take a pic of the back of the headstock but, the serial is 5025117. Image

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:27 am
by stratman323
Actually it's not a dimple, a dimple is concave. These additions are convex, so they should be referred to as a pimple. Or maybe a nipple. But not a dimple.

:wink:

Mike

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:46 am
by digbystar
Yeah, Yeah, I'm all for nipple!! I never wanted one of those headstock's, now I've gotta have one!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:52 am
by mirrorboy
I also noticed the recent references to headstock dimples and it is technically an oxymoron as Mike has pointed out.

Pimple seems closer to the true meaning, seeing as it is undesirable to some. I think the nomenclature should have it as a 'finial', no matter how feeble, as it sits atop the apex.