Please help me !

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Molotovkyle
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Please help me !

Post by Molotovkyle » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:30 pm

I bought a snow white Tokai LP in Canada.

Can't seem to find any info on this thing.


Was wondering if someone could help me out?

Thanks!Image

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Post by mdvineng » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:30 am

without detailed pictures all we have to go on is white LP!
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Re: Please help me !

Post by Molotovkyle » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:11 pm

Hey!

Just not sure yet how to upload a photo to this forum!

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Re: Please help me !

Post by Molotovkyle » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:15 pm

https://we.tl/t-W1X6EcM1wM


This we transfer link should work for the photos!


I think it's a 2001?

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Re: Please help me !

Post by Paladin2019 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:33 pm

It's hard to tell because the photos are still terrible (what does it say on the back of the headstock???), but it looks like one of the old US models. Japanese made but with a shape and control layout intended to pacify a certain big brand's lawyers.

I think it's a 2001 but there's not much info out there about these because they were rather unpopular. Everyone wanted the version that looked like the originals. Probably similar in spec to the more recent LC110S but with Gotoh pickups.

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Re: Please help me !

Post by Molotovkyle » Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:53 pm

It says made in japan...and it says made in japan on the tuners as well.

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Re: Please help me !

Post by brokentoes » Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:49 pm

I remember these .......... Is it an ebony or a rosewood board ?

It's a sticker at the back of the neck right ?

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Re: Please help me !

Post by Molotovkyle » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:28 pm

Yes it is!

I'm not sure what the fingerboard is.

I just played it and it felt damn good so I bought it on a whim and hoping I didn't get hosed since I read about lots of fakes.

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Post by brokentoes » Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:18 pm

Pretty sure those were real Tokai's.

Like Paladin says they were made that way to try to get into the U.S. and Canada without Gibson freaking out. There was a few different headstock shapes and tone/volume mods they tried.

It would be cool if it was a Ebony board.

Did you get it in Mississauga ??

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Re: Please help me !

Post by Molotovkyle » Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:24 pm

In Kitchener!

At Sherwood music.

I paid 1000$ for it. I'm hoping I didn't over pay too much...


It just felt GOOD and it sounds good.

I played a bunch of grecos/burnys and none of them felt as good as this one.

I'll have a friend tell me what the fretboard is on Wednesday and will let you know.

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Re: Please help me !

Post by Paladin2019 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:23 am

It'll be rosewood for that model/year. The Customs only started getting ebony on the premium series about 5 years later.

You may find a bit more info if you take out the pickups, sometimes the model number is pencilled into the cavity.

It's nice that it still has the MIJ sticker, they don't often survive!

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Re: Please help me !

Post by Ozeguitarguy » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:38 am

You'll all thank me for coming back here shortly from the looks of things around here.
This guitar is in NO way a Tokai..!!!
Tokai have NEVER made a single guitar EVER with an Epi headstock.
What the hell is wrong with you all.....the poor guy has over paid for a fake.
Nice to see that nothing changes in Canada...the home of fake Tokai for years.
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Re: Please help me !

Post by mdvineng » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:18 am

Tokai VSB80 OF, Michael Kelly Patriot custom, Epiphone Elite SG & EB3. 8)

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Re: Please help me !

Post by Ozeguitarguy » Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:11 pm

So because the LesPaul forum says it's legit...it must be legit?
I stand by my statement....it's not a tokai...100%.
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Re: Please help me !

Post by brokentoes » Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:31 pm

There has been some real ones that had wonky headstocks and sometimes even the volume and tone were backwards. Some had the paddle style Epiphone elite headstocks. They were made by Tokai japan. I've seen the routings and other details to know this is true. I'm in Canada so i know what the many fakes look like as well. They don't have Tokai Japan routing and other easily identifiable non MIJ Tokai characteristics. Now i can't say 100% that this one is legit because it is not in my hands. However The North American market did get some of these oddities. You can believe anything you want to believe mind you.

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