Burny Bidding War....

[Gasp100]

There are a few decent Burny's on ebay (US). I've been trying to research as much as possible, but only getting so far (lots of grey areas with this stuff). Anyway, I just picked up a Black LPC with some nice upgrades from TGP and I want another Standard style. Here is the link to the one I think "might" really be from early 80's. But I guess my question is, if I plan on replacing pickups and wiring in the future with (insert some expensive aftermarket booteek pups like WCR's, Fralin, Lollar, etc... and at least caps, maybe a complete RS style kit) should I really get caught up in a high bidding war for this one? I mean, I dig plain tops for sure and it might be a slightly higher model than others on ebay, but hot much better? It's definitely not a super rare high number FLG with nitro or anytyhing, right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=140312609925

Here is my second choice; definitely MIJ, but might even be from the 90's. I think the previous owner probably tried to fake people out with the truss rod cover?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=260391309071

Thoughts?

 

[20 century boy]

The second one is a late model ( 2000 models), they don't deserve much attention.

 

[Gasp100]

Really? How can you tell so quickly? My understanding is that Burny stopped production of MIJ LP's after 1996-97. I just found this on another site.

"Dating a Burny or Fernandes can be loosely done by looking at the truss rod cover. The Gibson bell-shaped covers are found on 1970?s to early 1980?s models. The bell-shape cover with thin white band and ridges sticking out from the side are found on mid-1980s to early 1990?s models. The late 90's model to present will have the palace-shape and 3 screws truss rod covers."

I (incorrectly) assumed the truss rod cover to be some sort of third party replacement. So, even if this is MIJ -- which I sure as hell hope so for the sellers conscience -- this is definitely LATE 90's and like you said, probably even later. That's not to say it's not a decent guitar, but... I'll pass.
Well, now we are getting into higher end LP territory (Elitist with upgrades, Orville by Gibson, maybe even Gibby's). Of course I should probably just buy a Hamer and get a better guitar to start with
This is exhausting... but fun! Thanks!

 

[MIJvintage]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=140312609925

Non original items: tuners, pick guard, bridge, truss rod cover

Weight: > 9/ < 10

Pickups: looks like gray insulation covered wire later version VH-1

Finish: poly


I prefer my Burnys in more or less original condition, which this one wouldn't do for me in this regard

weight range is too wide; it could weigh 9 lb. or 10 lb.; who knows?

Personally I would pass on this one ...............................


AFA the three screw truss rod cover Burnys; I don't even go there :wink: ......................

 

[btmish]

On the first one, "might" be from the 80's is right. I would not be certain of it. I would say it's either late 80's or early 90's. Has the silver back on the pickups, what looks like, maybe a yellow cap, low script, grey wire. It's most surely not early eighties. I bet it's a nice guitar though.

 

[Gasp100]

Thanks fellas, you saved me some money. I'm working on a possible deal with a fellow member on his ObG LPR59... better direction to go imho.

 

[Gasp100]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=140312609925

Non original items: tuners, pick guard, bridge, truss rod cover

Weight: > 9/ < 10

Pickups: looks like gray insulation covered wire later version VH-1

Finish: poly


I prefer my Burnys in more or less original condition, which this one wouldn't do for me in this regard

weight range is too wide; it could weigh 9 lb. or 10 lb.; who knows?

Personally I would pass on this one ...............................


AFA the three screw truss rod cover Burnys; I don't even go there :wink: ......................

I agree on the 3 screw TRC ones. I might at least see this auction out. I would think the tuners (although not original) might actually be an upgrade (if they are Grovers). I find many of these MIJ's actually NEED a new bridge to be setup/intonated correctly. Not worried about the pickguard and the TRC? Someone was probably trying to fake someone out at some point
It's probably a late 80's-early - mid 90's? I've heard even the later VH's are still nice pups, no? Like I said, this would probably be a modder guitar for me anyway. We'll see what happens, I really want the ObG but it IS more expensive for sure.

 

[Gasp100]

I guess I just bought it
I thought for sure it was going to go for a tad higher than my top bid. I did confirm with the seller the tuners are Grovers (which is an upgrade imho). I will probably dismantle this bad boy the minute I receive it. I really want to spec it as much as possible to find out exactly what model/year it is... if possible :roll:
I could see upgrading the wiring, pots, caps and most likely the pickups to something I haven't used yet like Antiquities, Seth Lovers, 57 classics. We shall see.

 

[Gasp100]

And now I "unbought it"... whatever. No more ebay for me, people are just plain rude.

 

[btmish]

????

 

[NWOBHM]

You won that? What happened? The seller offered it to me with free shipping. I guess I was the second high -bidder? It weighs 9 lbs probably less if i put klusons on but, why bother, the grovers work fine. It's definately a good one, plays and sounds great.

 

[NWOBHM]

Hey Gasp How about this one. I probably would have jumped on this, if I'd seen it a week ago and had the money. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=120408608046

 

[Gasp100]

You won that? What happened? The seller offered it to me with free shipping. I guess I was the second high -bidder? It weighs 9 lbs probably less if i put klusons on but, why bother, the grovers work fine. It's definately a good one, plays and sounds great.

Cool, someone from here grabbed it. I had a feeling it would be nice. I guess I was in a bad mood. He quoted me $30 flat shipping (I was asking polite questions through the entire auction, he seemed a little short with me most of the time) and then after I won he said shipping was $45. Normally, I would have said no big deal but I sent a note back stating he quoted $30, then he didn't respond for a few hours. That kind of irked me.
I had a few guitars coming in already and I didn't want to mess around. Anyway, glad you like the axe, I missed out on the other one you posted too. I'm kind of going back to Epi Elitists - I bought two lately, each for less than $750 mint with OHSC and they just kill. I also grabbed an ObG LP59 reissue from here, it's going to be killer after a fret dress and some other work... I was a little disappointed that it wasn't stellar out of the box, but it has the goods. Just needs to be fixed up.

 

[NWOBHM]

Yeah, It's hard to beat those Fujigen Les Pauls, OBG,Elitist, there all really good in my book! Burny, Tokai, Greco,Bacchus etc.... Most of the MIJ stuff is pretty good! :wink: Post a pic of that OBG!