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Ok thanks! Out of curiosity, how are you able to tell it is an ST50? Is it because you are not seeing a centre-seam? U pickups. The 60 would have E. Ok, so is this always the case? My limited reading made me think that some ST-60s came with U pickups, and that this alone cannot be used to determine...

AlvinStraight wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:01 am

mdvineng wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:02 am

ST50 1982

Ok thanks! Out of curiosity, how are you able to tell it is an ST50? Is it because you are not seeing a centre-seam?

U pickups. The 60 would have E.

All of my maple Springy and Goldstars have 8 hole single ply pickguards. There are lots of anomalies out there. Since I've seen a number of examples of maple neck variants with L series neck plates and 3 ply pickguards, my theory was that some clever dick at a dealer was maybe swapping parts around ...

No these look different. The solder spots are spaced differently and the wires are routed through a hole to the front on mine.

The tuners have definitely not been replaced.

I'm also thrown by the pickups which are black bottomed. It also doesn't have the brass control plate that you would see on the SS from that year.

Just taking apart and cleaning one of my Silverstars from '81, and it appears I have one of these. Squared off routings and no body codes. Odd micro tilt. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zt7DKfgjww1GptBp7 https://photos.app.goo.gl/5Bzi31fDyFWamJvu7 https://photos.app.goo.gl/2Di96hB383N6kPa38 https://photo...

Hi guys, This is probably one for the uber-experts like Villager, Peter, et al. This appears to be factory routed as HSS - the factory stamp is intact and no evidence of post factory routing. All lacquer is in place. Pups seem different or replacement - surely not dimarzios? https://photos.app.goo.g...

They don't always match - but they mostly do. When they match, it's a quite likely confirmation that they belong together. If they don't match, it could be that it was made like that, or that it's an assembly of sorts afterwards. I don't think anyone knows 100% what the number codes mean, but the mo...

Serials denoting age are on the neck plates.

Jeremycanlapan wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:38 am

It was proved by the experts sir that its a legit tokai japan domestic first 1000 production . My tokai is made for japan not for export.

First 1000? They started making these in '77. The serial is for an '82, so how can it be of the first 1000 built?

I thought that too. The neck stamps and body stamps do match though.

I've never seen a Tokai Strat older than '84 '85 without the pickup recesses. Nor does the pickup routing on this body match any Tokai of of the '70s/'80s. I can only say from examining the 35 or so Goldstars and Springys I currently have, and further ones I have sold on, and of this forum. Further,...

It's because the pickup routings aren't correct for a Springy. Also, spaghetti Springys had allen key adjustments for the truss rod, not cross-head as with later Goldies. Everything else is 100% correct, and the decal looks a bit 'fresh'. I assume it has been reinstated with a decal - the trend in t...

Let me help Jeremy here. I was having a conversation with him about his Tokai acquisition on a Facebook group. To me, it looks like an '82 ST-60 Springy. All is present and correct for this date, except for the body. The pickup routings don't match the Springy, nor the later Goldstars. Here is the b...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362891332463

It's mine.