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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi Guys You are all ignoring the Elephant in the Room, your web site thoroughly discredited by the gross inaccuracies in its dating section, that too claims to be a translation of an 82 brochure.
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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi Barks67 I don't think I am the only member shouting! For certain members to claim they know more about FENDER guitars than Fender themselves and to question the most respected Fender web site http://home.provide.net/~cfh/fender.html#intro and to tell me my ?2500 Fender Custom Shop NOS 56...
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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi Jonah65 here is St60 on sale in Japan it has a c shaped neck and butterfly string trees and a ST60 sticker, it is roughly the same age as mine, there would appear to be variances in all ST models, it probably come back to my earlier post of Oldies and Vintage models...
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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi jonah65 Thank you very much for your reply. bluejeannot Still digging but it would appear that even Gods disagree.
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    Goldstar identification please

    bluejeannot At last some factual information from you to support your views, I don't read Japanese so I have to accept what you have written. All this highlights is that there is a lot of contradictory information in Tokai catalogues in particular the Swedish one I referred to earlier which...
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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi Guys I have some really bad news, here is even more evidence that you are speaking garbage: http://brochures.yokochou.com/guitar-and-amp/tokai/1981/en_index.html If you look at the two catalogues one titled ST 64 ORIGINAL MODEL OLDIES you will see an ST 85, 80, 60 and 50 with butterfly...
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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi jonah65 Could you please tell me how you know it is a ST60 and not a ST80, does it have an original sticker on it, do you have a bill of sale? Why does the catologue say ST80's and above only have V necks. Please address the issues in my previous posts. Bluejeannot it would seem that the...
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    Goldstar identification please

    Peter Mac, Suki and Bluejeannot If anyone has had advice form these three guys then I would doubt they got it right, if they say you have a ST60 then you probably have a ST80 with a button string tree, it's the lowest level for a V neck, if they say you have a ST50 then you probably have a...
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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi Guys I think you have totally misread your own web site details, you have all seen this I hope! http://tinypic.com/m/id6hio/1 Well the right interpretation of this table which I believe is taken from the 82 catalogue the contents of which I claim no involvement is: 1954~PRE-1956 ST 80...
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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi Peter Mac, Suki and Bluejeannot To add further to my doubts about you ability to ascertain the model of my Goldie I would point you towards one of the Tokai catalogues http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/catalogs/oldies_p2.jpg I cannot read Japanese therefore most of the ones on the...
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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi Bluejeannot Thank you for your constructive comment, but I prefer to use reasoned arguments rather than dogmatic statements. My guitar may or may not be an ST50 but it is not for the statement that either Peter Mac or Suki have put forward, they are plain wrong a 56 Strat does not have a...
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    PICKED UP THIS GOLDSTAR PICGUARD RECENTLY

    Hi Peter I think you have got the change of names round the wrong way, my understanding is that U's measure around 6.2 Kohms and E were the vintage less common pickups measuring around 5.6 KOhms. The IIV in the pick guard I have measure 5.6 KOhms and are E's and I presume the U's were replaced...
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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi Peter One worry further observation on the http://home.provide.net/~cfh/56strat.html web site is that the numbering for a 56 strat runs from 9000 to 16000, assuming Tokai mimicked this like every other feature then there could be four digit numbered neck plate on Goldstars with a...
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    Goldstar identification please

    Hi Peter Sorry to appear to be argumentative and to call into question your expertise but there is a necognised authority on vintage Fender Strats that I have continually referred to over the years, you can read it here, the people who put this together did a power of work detailing Fender...
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    Goldstar identification please

    As I have posted before in a previous comment the Dating & ID section, "Tokai Fender Replica Time Line" says 1956~1960 Model 5 digits on neck plates ST50, 60 TE50, 70 PB80. I have a Fender Custom shop NOS 56 and it has the same string tree as my Goldstar, not only does a 56 not have a round...
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